I am processing sets of ships cards for my solo scenarios and wondered if they would be of interest to anyone else.
I will post the first page here and add to them as I complete each sheet.
They actually print out at 60x 30 mm.
Rob.
Ships name cards.
I am processing sets of ships cards for my solo scenarios and wondered if they would be of interest to anyone else.
I will post the first page here and add to them as I complete each sheet.
They actually print out at 60x 30 mm.
Rob.
Now to the French.
Rob.
Last edited by Bligh; 12-03-2015 at 15:13.
The Spanish.
Rob.
And finally the good old US of A.
I will add more ships to these sets as they come out if you show any interest.
Rob.
Proserpine or Prosperine Rob?
Proserpine according to the box Neil.
Thanks. But don't expect a replacement any time soon. I will change it for the Files.
Rob.
How's that Neil.
Rob..
Fine and dandy Rob.
A note about the American flag; I believe the one you chose was a reproduction of the Fort McHenry flag. I don't think the Americans used 15 stripes outside of that flag. I could be wrong....
Also, doesn't the St Andrews cross sort of establish a date for the British?
The United States Congress' Flag Act of 1794 added two stars and stripes when Vermont and Kentucky were added as states to the original thirteen. The Flag Act of 1818 changed the flag back to 13 stripes for the original thirteen colonies while a new star would be added for each new state.Originally Posted by Dobbs
The flag of 15 stars and stripes would be appropriate for the ships of the permanent standing United States Navy created by the Naval Act of 1794 and served through the War of 1812 and Second Barbary War, but not for the Continental Navy, which was disbanded after the American War of Independence.
Also the 1781 sloop was named Atalanta instead of Atlanta.
Last edited by Coog; 12-03-2015 at 21:27.
Hi Bob
I heard of the HMS Atalanta and a US merchantman, but not a US Sloop by that name. Would you please show me where I could find that information? Thanks.
http://threedecks.org/index.php?disp..._ship&id=14620
Atalanta was never a "USS"
Thanks Dave, I should have known better than to question Coog.
PS So it would seem it was an American ship for only two months.
Surprised that Ares even used that name.
Last edited by Gunner; 12-03-2015 at 23:12.
Atalanta is the alternate ship for the Thorn model. Ares refers to her as USS Atalanta on their cards and elsewhere. But I agree with David, like Thorn, she was actually just called Atalanta. I don't believe the USS designation was used until sometime after the before mentioned Naval Act of 1794.Hi Bob
I heard of the HMS Atalanta and a US merchantman, but not a US Sloop by that name. Would you please show me where I could find that information? Thanks.
United States ships also used designations such as USF for United States Frigate. It wasn't until 1907 when President Theodore Roosevelt made USS the only official designation in his Executive Order 549.
"In order that there shall be uniformity in the matter of designating naval vessels, it is hereby directed that the official designation of vessels of war, and other vessels of the Navy of the United States, shall be the name of such vessel, preceded by the words, United States Ship, or the letters U.S.S., and by no other words or letters."
Last edited by Coog; 12-03-2015 at 23:16.
Hi Dobbs.
I had a long think about both those things before I decided to produce the cards.
From research on a couple of American sites the flag was stated to run up to 1816, so it fits with my requirements.
Also for the British flag. I felt that the most obvious one was the current well known 1801 flag.
I had no intention of reproducing all those flags twice. Likewise the use of the Bourbon flag.
However, anyone may feel free to use and alter whatever flags they like.
Rob.
More than that, she was never officially brought into US naval service, being captured and then recaptured by the RN a few weeks later.
Ill take a set each of those please Rob, could you do a couple of exras for my repaints please if I send you the names ?
For you Chris, how could I refuse.
Rob.
Thanks Rob
French ships
America
Temeraire
Timoleon
RN
HMS Aboukir
HMS Audacious
HMS Amazon
HMS Ambuscade
HMS Berwick
HMS Greyhound
HMS Renown
HMS Resolution
HMS Shannon
Proserpine according to HISTORY. Is "Prosperine" even a word in ANY language?
Hi Rob, thanks for setting me straight on the flags. As to the Bourbon flag, while I appreciate the historical significance, who wants a ship with a white flag?
The French, to be sure.
Probably why I got it wrong DB. It's the Classical Education you know.
I have corrected it to the Ares spelling because the names are intended for the ships they have plus any conversions I have made.If anyone would prefer the alternative spelling please let me know and I will add it to the next set.
Rob.
Trust me, I rode Roberto & Co. like a rented mule about spelling, and they got Proserpine right at least on their website.
The real sticking point was Sybille/Sibylle... the I and Y traded places when the flags switched historically, an I'm not sure which side of the 50/50 coin-toss the miniatures landed on.
That's why I bit the bullet and went with their spelling DB, because for all you knowledgeable chaps who know the correct spelling and try so hard to put it right, I would have got a heck of a lot more flack from the ones who don't know and would have said that Ares and the cards don't spell it that way. I'd far sooner justify my reasons to you bright chaps than try and talk round a lot of Barrack room lawyers.
Rob.
Handle 'em the way I did, Rob: "Got a problem with it, THERE'S THE DOOR." The version you have posted right now is the correct one.
And for all the Turd-Sucking Munchkins out there, let me make things perfectly clear: "There is no such mother-@#%@#ing thing as a mother-$#^$#%#$%ing 'Prosperine'! Good God, take a $#%#%%@#ing History class and more importantly LEARN HOW TO %^$@^#$%#@ing READ AND SPELL!" (best delivered if you imagine my hands around somebody's throat or me bodily slamming them against the nearest wall every other syllable)
For anyone interested in the source of the name.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proserpina
Also interesting to note that there have been six Proserpines in the Royal Navy as well as (more recently) a stone frigate
NSS.
When I mentioned this it was due to the fact that the spelling that Rob initially used was Prosperine not Proserpine. So if your continuing rant is in my direction, then think again. I only pointed it out so Rob could correct the spelling before he published them in the file section.
So how about a think before opening and closing said hands around said throat of someone trying to help someone else out.
Or if you fancy, feather pillows at dawn behind the bike sheds; name your second.
And as my good old Dad told me, sticks and stones son, sticks and stones.
Neil, for the record, if I'm ever in a situation where I need to Call Someone Out you can count on me to do it By Name--nothing personal at you intended, I'm just trying to ensure the point is driven home for the entire community so we can drive a stake through that little myth's heart Once and For All. :)
I for one would like to *hope* that we don't harbor any TSMs in our midst... after all no matter how much Spreadsheet Gaming you do beforehand it's still a matter of Skill and Luck once the figures hit the table.
And let no one forget, this is just a game, for fun and enjoyment between friends.
NSS?
TSM?
Got the NSS but what is TSM?
NSS is I'm guessing No Such Ship.
TSM = Turd-Sucking Munchkin, the kind of rules-lawyering powergamer who makes you want to stick their head in the crapper and hit Flush... or worse.
Looks like we're still killing the Kings English.
Looks like we're still killing the Kings English.I'm starting to regret that I ever published this set of cards.
Rob.
Rob. let me make this perfectly clear: You did good, amigo. :)
Never let a good deed go unpunished
Rob.
Never let a good deed go unpunished
Rob.
NSS: No S**t Sherlock
I dare not say now I always called it Prosperine, Strange what the brain tells you no matter how it spelt.
DB i will make sure I call it proper like from now on , honest guv
Take command Sir! - Decide the spelling you want and go with it. Your good work here should be applauded
3 cheers for Mr Bligh!
Last edited by Herkybird; 12-07-2015 at 13:36.
Yes, in "American" - its a township in Missouri
Did give me an idea for a name for one of my Merchant ships. I may call her the "LadyJane Morris" in memory of this thread.
Rob.
@Chris, we all have a few we struggle with--my administrative-assistant has dyslexia and there are a few things that permanently elude her, like for some reason her brain is hardwired to spell "Sergeant" with two A's instead of two E's.
:)
That's very interesting DB.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the shortened version being Sarge.
Rob.
Not in the British Army Rob!
I believe that DB's administrative-assistant may be American Neil, although this is not a given.
Rob.
Prosperine, MO is so big (ha, ha), that it was not included in the last census.Yes, in "American" - its a township in Missouri
Inhabitants one, an old fart wargamer with a SGN frigate model in his collection, the old guy continually wonders how they spelt the name of the ship wrong
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