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    Yes HMS Prince's ship mat is something I need to look at Chris.
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    The ratlines are on and the standing rigging is done

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    Absolutly magnificent!

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    Thank you Peter

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    That is brilliant, Vol!

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    I have little to add except bravo Vol.
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    Thanks Jonas and Rob. I am pretty happy with the way it turned out. Funny that I had finished all of the paper sails for it and stopped for the night. A couple of days later I sat down to work on the ship and made the decision to try to make some cloth sails. Now I'm glad I did.

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    Superb work Vol, how did you do the ratlines ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Duff View Post
    Superb work Vol, how did you do the ratlines ?
    Thanks Chris, and thanks for the rep points as well. I used my home made jigs to make these ratlines rather the 3D jig I have. The lines are spaced too far apart for the scale on the 3D jig in my opinion. I know the little 1/700 Eduard crew figures fit between the spaces, whereas on the shrouds from my home made jig they easily fit across two lines for climbing. I think I have posted photos of the jigs before but here they are again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
    The ratlines are on and the standing rigging is done

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    That is beautiful, way beyond good. The sails look very believable.

    Do you actually use your models or just display them. I wonder how they cope with being handled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
    Thanks Chris, and thanks for the rep points as well. I used my home made jigs to make these ratlines rather the 3D jig I have. The lines are spaced too far apart for the scale on the 3D jig in my opinion. I know the little 1/700 Eduard crew figures fit between the spaces, whereas on the shrouds from my home made jig they easily fit across two lines for climbing. I think I have posted photos of the jigs before but here they are again.

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    Hi Vol, I've seen your jig before but can't remember if you said how you used it.

    Once the thread is fixed to the jig do you soak it in superglue to hold it all together?

    Same with the standing rigging, is it superglue to hold it in place and how do you make it taut?

    Is it made from a credit card and what did you use to cut into the edges with, it looks too fine to be a saw, was it just a knife?

    Finally are you using sewing thread or something similar?
    Cheers
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    Hi Vol,
    I remember you making the jigs but thought you said they didnt work and the ratlines fell apart.
    I take it the suggestions of soaking the cottin with watered down pva glue worked ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Duff View Post
    Hi Vol,
    I remember you making the jigs but thought you said they didnt work and the ratlines fell apart.
    I take it the suggestions of soaking the cottin with watered down pva glue worked ?
    No Chris the home made jigs work great and I use just a spot of superglue at each joint. What wasn't working for me was the 3D printed jig using PVA to cement the joints. It just wasn't holding well, and the spacing is too much for the scale IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post
    That is beautiful, way beyond good. The sails look very believable.

    Do you actually use your models or just display them. I wonder how they cope with being handled?
    Hi John and thanks. Actually they handle quite well. With the steel masts and tight rigging They have remained in tact even after being dropped on occasion. I haven't used the 1/700 scale ships in a game yet, but I have used my 1/1200 scale fleets and the ones I have done this way fare much better than the ships with the stock masts.

    To answer your jig questions, as I just reminded Chris, I use just a touch of superglue at each joint. Yes they are made from sandwiched credit/debit card and the slots are cut with a razor saw.

    The standing rigging and running rigging is all tied at each point with a touch of glue to secure the knots. The taughtness comes from the steel masts, they don't bend.

    I use black cotton sewing thread for the standing rigging and fly-tying Uni-Thread 6/0W & 8/0W for the running rigging. I wax the black thread before use.

    Hope I covered your questions.

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    Thanks for the clarification Vol

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    Hello folks,

    My "Black Seas Scenary Pack" is completed.
    Here are a few pictures, even if my skills are not as great as some
    others here, but I am quite satisfied with it.

    First an overview of all components also in comparison with the
    SoG L'Orient (picture 2+3). The sizes due to the scals are not too
    big despite previous fears.

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    Mantello tower + lighthouse + coast battery

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    The terrain looks excellent, the battered ships also , they will enhance your games greatly, well done

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    looks fine to me also Lankin.
    I always think that any 3D scenery that players can build is going to be better than relying on the flat card shoals and coastline on offer from Ares, so one up to you sir.
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    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    thanks a lot guys, I hope I can add a thing or two to this

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    Great job!

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    The terrain looks great Lankin. I really like that martello tower and lighthouse! And I am surprised the wrecks don't appear out of scale at all to the 1/1000 scale Aries ship from what I can see in the first few photos. Well done and nicely painted.

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    Those are very enticing wrecks and they do look like they'd fit right in in our scale. Is the tall lighthouse part of the set? I have a weakness for lighthouses.

    Is the brown flat Lima bean shaped piece a shoal?
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    To @Dobbs and all interested:

    The following are part of the "Black Seas: Scenery Pack" - Scale 1:700
    1 Lighthouse
    1 Martello tower
    2 Cannon Emplacements
    1 Mortar Emplacement
    1 Sunk 1st Rate
    1 Sunk 3rd Rate
    5 Rocks

    And sorry for my wild scenario setup, I mixed wildly out of necessity. The base is the
    Wings of Glory - Coastal Playmat - well, i have nothing as a good 3D-Background
    right now - on it I tried to use the 2D-SoG Terrain Packs and the
    Freebooters Fate: Forests & Lakes Mini-Mats to build a base for the
    Black Seas 3D parts.

    So the "Lima bean shaped piece" is the swamp mini-map from Freebooters Fate,
    i used it cause the city from the coastal-map was to dominant.

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    Iankin, did you add the sails to the wrecks or are they part of the cast? They look really good.

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    Hi dobbs, this is a ready to paint resin/metal kit, nothing is added from me, it is only painted.
    Only the 3 Emplacements are from metal.

    if we had rules for sea monsters, there would be also the set "terrors of the deep" from black seas for this as well

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    Ensign Patch sometimes puts a sea monster in our Pirate games Lankin.
    You could ask him.

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    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
    Hi John and thanks. Actually they handle quite well. With the steel masts and tight rigging They have remained in tact even after being dropped on occasion. I haven't used the 1/700 scale ships in a game yet, but I have used my 1/1200 scale fleets and the ones I have done this way fare much better than the ships with the stock masts.

    To answer your jig questions, as I just reminded Chris, I use just a touch of superglue at each joint. Yes they are made from sandwiched credit/debit card and the slots are cut with a razor saw.

    The standing rigging and running rigging is all tied at each point with a touch of glue to secure the knots. The taughtness comes from the steel masts, they don't bend.

    I use black cotton sewing thread for the standing rigging and fly-tying Uni-Thread 6/0W & 8/0W for the running rigging. I wax the black thread before use.

    Hope I covered your questions.
    Vol Thanks for the info. I had a close look at the rigging and couldn't see your knots where you say you tie it in place, it's very neat.
    Do you use some form of slip knot to create the tautness of the thread?

    I'm impressed that the waxed thread works so well. I used some to create reinforcing lines on a couple of balloons for WoW and had the devils own job gluing it but I was using a weak pva which might explain it.

    Sorry for all the questions but I recently repainted one of my ships and it went better than expected so I'm thinking of rigging it as well. I used to tie flies years ago and must still have the thread I used, I'll dig it out.
    Thanks again for the info.

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    I prefer synthetic sewing thread as it’s not as sensitive to damp air. Cotton thread may become a little bit sagging when exposed to moisture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
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    If you put this in a glass case one might think this was a much larger model in a maritime museum! Those sails are amazing!

    Ok let's see some cloth ensigns next.

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    Now that is an idea Eric.
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    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    It’ll be obvious which is the flagship in my Spanish fleet.

    Left is painted by me and right painted by Julían.

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    I can still say mine isn’t finished yet…

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    I am very happy that you like it and that the ship has arrived safely.
    What do you think of metal masts?

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    They are great. I really need to continue working on my Spanish fleet now.

    For most navies a first rate or two is the most you’ll ever need, but with the Spanish you need something like six of them for a single battle. Their navy may have had the mightiest ships in guns and numbers.

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    Waiting to see the complete fleet, should be impressive.

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    I’m working on a surrendered ship.

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    When you can print your own hulls easily it’s quite cheap to make wrecks.

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    Ooh, I like the subtle list. What diid the taff rail in? That's a heck of a wound! It's like the kraken took a bite out of her!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    I prefer synthetic sewing thread as it’s not as sensitive to damp air. Cotton thread may become a little bit sagging when exposed to moisture.
    Ah but with cotton, if there is a bit of sag all you have to do is wet it, and when it dries it shrinks and get taught again. Waxing seems to help prevent it absorbing too much moisture from.the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeRuyter View Post
    If you put this in a glass case one might think this was a much larger model in a maritime museum! Those sails are amazing!

    Ok let's see some cloth ensigns next.
    Wow, that is quite a compliment Eric, thank you very much! Cloth ensigns sound great but I am not that good at painting, especially on cloth. I've never tried it but I can't imagine it would be easy with the bleed effect. If I could figure a way to print flags on cloth, now that would be something!

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    I finished the ship yesterday evening.

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    More photos at https://volsminiatures.blogspot.com/...rouin.html?m=1

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    It looks stunning.

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    That is one great looking ship, Vol.

    That is one of the better ships ever posted on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer View Post
    Cloth ensigns sound great but I am not that good at painting, especially on cloth. I've never tried it but I can't imagine it would be easy with the bleed effect. If I could figure a way to print flags on cloth, now that would be something!
    I asked Speedwell Lass, and she adds textile medium to the acrylic paint or textile dye she is using. This thickens the paint and prevents the water in it leaching out into the cloth. She suggests trying it on a test piece of the material until you get the proportions right before doing anything important.

    Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    That is one great looking ship, Vol.

    That is one of the better ships ever posted on this forum.
    Wow! Thank you Jonas! Coming from a master painter like you that really means a lot to me.

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    Started working on my next cloth sail set for another Temeraire class 74 last night. I went a bit lighter this time using Linen with a drop of antique white.

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    I don't think I am ever going to build that plastic Victory kit now, haha.

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    Another Spanish hull finished. This time San Justo. It’s Simon’s model for San Joaquin class.

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    I repainted the lion into another figurehead.

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    Coming along well Jonas.
    I still have not done any more on my Captain model.
    Rob.
    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    Very nice Jonas! See, that is what I was talking about. Changing a lion head into a different figurehead with just paint! Or adding tiny decoration medallions to stern galleries. Your painting skils are over the top.

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    I loved the subtle changes made to those ships myself. I tried to emulate them with my Swedish Frigates but am afraid I came out a very poor imitator.

    Rob.
    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    I loved the subtle changes made to those ships myself. I tried to emulate them with my Swedish Frigates but am afraid I came out a very poor imitator.

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    I really like your Swedish frigates, Rob. You know what they say, imitation is the best form of flattery.

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    Well I wish I could have done you more justice Jonas.
    Rob.
    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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