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    This has been a long time coming. To square (pentagon) it up, I printed a pentagon to the outside dimensions of the walls.

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    It is to be my Ft McHenry, though I believe it to be somewhat larger in scale. I threw a Hebe frigate in the background for comparison.

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know for sure if Fort M had grass on the walls in 1814? I thought that was a Civil War thing to deal with exploding shells.

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    Bases on the way from the UK, magnets on hand... gotta get motivated to blacken some washers and finish some masts. And touch up some annoying spots on hulls...
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    I think the fort in Copenhagen was a pentagon too. Pity we don't have one of that shape to buy.

    But you reminded me that I have fortification bits I can print. I will have to try print those.

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    Would this be of use Jonas?

    https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-mo...-pentagon-star

    Found while searching, dont know anything about the company though

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    Looking good thus far Dobbs.

    I await your completed fort with interest.
    My big problem with my forts from that source is the lack of suitable sized buildings for the inner works. My Langton ones look a bit small in comparison.

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    Thanks, Chris.

    I'm not that fond of the angles and looks of it. I think it tells that it's made for a bigger scale and the cartoony look it gets from trying to be high enough for the miniatures without taking up the entire tabletop.

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    I found Kastellet and Trekroner Forts Jonas. Was it Kastelet which you wanted to confirm?
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    I already have Tre Kroner from Langton, but I haven't seen anyone making Kastellet. (Which by the way means The Castle)

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    And just so you know... Nelson anchored outside the marina when he attacked Copenhagen. The Danish use of the guns was somewhat impeded by the trees...

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    Aaand not too long ago you could buy Tre Kroner. No, not a model but the actual fortification was on sale. I think it had been a restaurant, conference center, but probably not enough visitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    I already have Tre Kroner from Langton, but I haven't seen anyone making Kastellet. (Which by the way means The Castle)
    In English, that would translate as the Little or small castle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexaS View Post
    Aaand not too long ago you could buy Tre Kroner. No, not a model but the actual fortification was on sale. I think it had been a restaurant, conference center, but probably not enough visitors.
    I wonder how much that went for? The Spitbank Fort the Solent went for a massive price. In 2009 it was put on sale for £800,000 but was sold before auction, reportedly for more than £1m. The fort was remodelled, with works reportedly costing around £8m, and opened in 2012 as a luxury spa hotel and retreat with nine bedroom suites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    In English, that would translate as the Little or small castle.
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    Kastell is just Castle pronounced in Scandinavian. The word's probably so old that I don't know who got it from whom.

    Kastellet is just The castle.

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    And by the way, förkastell is forecastle in English, to bring it out to sea...

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    I’ve been printing and painting guns.

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    El Morro? That'll keep you busy a while...

    Rob's unholy-alliance squadron just tied up here for a port-call and a few days' liberty before starting home across the Atlantic. Still trying to find the motivation to hit that sandpaper on the masts...
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    At last, guns that look like guns rather than barrels attatched to blobs.
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    Thanks forthe update on the ships DB. I just saw your E-mail.
    They look fine to me. i have been after those for almost ten years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Thanks forthe update on the ships DB. I just saw your E-mail.
    They look fine to me. i have been after those for almost ten years.
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    Well that is very thoughtful of you DB.
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    Thankyou Timothy, looking great as far as Im concerned.

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    Bases are in International Arrivals down in San Fransucko, should be about another week.
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    My latest new toy arrived today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Bases are in International Arrivals down in San Fransucko, should be about another week.
    That's not bad going DB I only posted them last weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    That's not bad going DB I only posted them last weekend.

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    Funny thing is, it was in my post office building this morning, but only processed for delivery (in this case I'm going to have to go to a counter and pick it up) two hours after I was out the door.

    Oh well, I was gonna have to slog through the line Wednesday anyway between your package and a few others... :)
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    We found that if we go to our Post Office about 2 in the afternoon it is almost empty, at any other time we are queuing down the street.
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    Today, for the first time in weeks I managed an hour on my Froja.
    Here is the progress thus far.
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    Nice! Good to see some work done here, and especially on a Swedish frigate!

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    All thanks to your goodself Jonas.
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    I found some time to work on the dry moat today. This might be my first time routering foam. It's a completely different tedium than routering hardwoods.

    My plan is to make this a corner piece since it's rather large (15"x 18").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Today, for the first time in weeks I managed an hour on my Froja.
    Here is the progress thus far.
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    Looking really good, Rob!

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    That is one good looking star fort.

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    Looking good thus far Dobbs. I hope yoy wore a mask for the Routing. That fine foam dust is cronic. Making large items a corner is always a good move. All my seaports are done like that.

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    Just spotted the Rep Dobbs. Thanks very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    Looking good thus far Dobbs. I hope yoy wore a mask for the Routing. That fine foam dust is cronic. Making large items a corner is always a good move. All my seaports are done like that.

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    Thanks, Rob, I most certainly did wear a nice filter mask. I had to have my sinuses cleared a few years back and want to avoid a repeat if possible!

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    I had mine reamed out and de coked the week before we should have been going to Prague Con a few years ago and had to missit because the durgeon advised me that rapid changes in pressure would not be a good idea for a week or two. Mind you he had also rebroken and straightened my nose for a fracture I did not know that I had, so I got a bogof. As you say not something I would relish going through again.
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    Inbound package of bases/sails etc secured, outbound on the way--tracking info out and detailed inventory received so we can start working the settle-up once I'm back at the keyboard in a few hours. (Sorry, I hate emailing from the tablet even with a keyboard, Gmail app flat sucks next to Thunderbird.)
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    Great DB. I hate even having to use Mrs Bligh's laptop when we are away. It is just not what I'm used to. small keyboard. No mouse, and page layout different. Even some icons are different. Why can't they standardize for partially sighted people?
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    So, the verdict on Sails in Plano 3730 cases:
    1. Absolute largest ship that will fit is Bucentaure, it ONLY fits in the end cells of the three main rows. Even then, you have to use EXTREME caution and remove the divider first, place the stern toward the outer edge, lower it as far as it will go then gently nudge the jib out of the divider's way and then carefully place the deck and log. (Which are another point of caution, they fill ALL the width not used by the main spars.)
    2. Center cells are unusable unless you Dremel out the divider slots.
    3. Latch row end cells are completely unusable except for based ships with an extreme length less than 76mm. Even then you have to stand them on their stern.
    4. In all cases, I would suggest setting up some foam tubes to drop in beside the masts--the bases do not allow ANY clearance for adding stickyback foam sheets.

    I can see them working well for 64's and smaller, but 74's and up (except the undersize Spanish ones) and oversize Constitution require a different solution.
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    Thank you for that very concise appraisal of the parameters and functionality of the Plano 3730 cases DB.
    I'm sure that will ensure all shipmates embarking down that route will be well aware of the pitfalls of the system.
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    Forcing a 3730 to work, I'd Dremel a slot for the mastheads in each row then superglue a plastic sheet onto the outside of the lid for a new "top plate." Ares jibs are flexible enough that Bucentaure can work, a Turner or Mann or any other miniature of equal length is No Bueno.
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    Another option, though it's $25 a pop... I found this Ridgid 10-compartment organizer at Home Depot though I didn't pick one up--I can get three Planos and Dremel 'em out for MUCH higher bang-for-buck in both dollars and cubic inches.

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-P...anizer-238093/
    Compartments are two 4x7x3-3/4" and six 4x3x3-3/4. For based ships with a jib-tip-to-base-rear length 3" or less they might work.

    Has anyone here finished and based a Turner threedecker to get X/Y/Z-axis dimensions?

    For lower numbers, if you could get the jibs to slide side by side to fit two per slot this Harbor Freight box might work...
    https://www.harborfreight.com/abs-st...zer-95807.html


    As another possibility, given that the Plano 3730 "main" row layout is two double cells at the ends and four single cells in the middle, if you're busting out the Dremel anyway it might work to hog out the end rows into two quads and interleave the jibs on two ships per section, using the latch row for logs/decks/etc...

    Another possibility by DeWalt:
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-1...4825/203367153

    2 large compartments each 6 inch x 4 inch x 3.5 inch (3x anything up to First Rate)
    8 small compartments each 4 1/8 inch x 3 inch x 3.5 inch (2x anything below 3" jib-tip-to-base-rear)
    My first thought on these would be to buy two. Swap the large compartments from one for four smalls from the other; build up the large-comps case case with a British and French SOL squadron and the other with frigate squadrons, using the small sections left in the first case for logs/decks/etc. Expanding to a second set, similarly set up with opposed British and Spanish squadrons.
    At $20 a pop, at this rate you still might as well stick to Plano & Dremel... more bang for both buck and cubic inch still.
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    Sounds like your plano system is the way to go DB.

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    IF my eye is right that you could get 18 ships into the $6 Harbor Freight box that combined with another storage solution, or 16 plus paperwork... well, 18/$6 is a buck per three ships' capacity while the Plano at 12/$8 is a dollar per 1.5 ships, PLUS labor and parts for modifications. I'll try to remember to check 'em out next time I'm in HF.

    I mean, if I had an ATM up my butt where I could crap money at will I'd look at the DeWalt or an even bigger Stanley (for FIFTY USD!) that uses the same compartments for my collection... but if I had that kind of money to throw at it I'd have the kind of money that your Kickstarter ships, Chris's decal sheets and a couple friends in the Netherlands and Germany's thousand bucks in plastic dinos would have been dispatched by charter jet and armed courier.


    And here's a painting I found that *might* justify a little more color than blue-and-bare-wood on Victory, leaving the Channel under Hood in 1793. Question is, is the different color of the UD planking reflecting lighting conditions, different wood or a genuine paint application?
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    Looks like a trick of the light to me or an attempt to show the weathering effects by the artist DB.

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    Its a shading effect to show the effect of light and also to bring out the tumblehome of the ship's hull. But painting a model to reflect that would be OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bligh View Post
    My latest new toy arrived today.

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    You can put balls in this paint to aid mixing, but I have not needed them so far, although I have only mixed four paints up to now, but one was pretty far gone and stirred up O.K.
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    Thanks for your appraisal Dave.
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