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    Thank you for sharing that interesting article, Bill. If more forts had been made from coquina, history might have been different. In game terms, I suppose that scenario designers will now have to research what type of stone a fort was made from, if they are going for historical accuracy.

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    Not too worried about Castillo de San Marcos Dave. I will give it a wide berth in my model making exploits. It is just a pity that they don't tell us which the other fort was that was made of the same material!
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    Here you go, Rob. Fort Matanzas, just south of St Augustine. It guards the back door.

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    Won't go there either then Dobbs, unless I want to give the captains at next year's Doncaster a nasty surprise! i.e. Just knock out that fort and your squadron can capture the ships in the harbour with ease."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Thank you for sharing that interesting article, Bill. If more forts had been made from coquina, history might have been different. In game terms, I suppose that scenario designers will now have to research what type of stone a fort was made from, if they are going for historical accuracy.
    Coastal defenses are already a research nightmare, as it is... Mere site plans are not readily available for most, and that's literally the foundation we'd need to have to build a map or model from.
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    Perhaps it could be the target of a night raid by a Marine landing party.

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    There are all sorts of possible scenarios for actions of this sort Dave. Were you at Doncaster 2 when I did my joint amphibious attack on the fort and harbour installations? We have also done bomb Ketch actions. What the walls are made of is inconsequential if you can drop a shell into the works behind the men manning the walls. I only told them to blow the ****** doors off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Coastal defenses are already a research nightmare, as it is... Mere site plans are not readily available for most, and that's literally the foundation we'd need to have to build a map or model from.
    I agree DB. I have built a few as you know, and sourcing plans of the period is difficult, plus what was drawn by the architect is not always followed in the actual construction, or can be altered between the time of construction and the period you are portraying. Even well documented sites like Ticonderoga are a nightmare with several layers of construction and also modifications overlying each other during its history of occupation by several nationalities. All we can really do is similar to the way we deal with the ships and make an informed best guess at a lot of the sites. Knowledge of Vauban's methods is a great help with the French and Spanish works of our period but even they often have anomalies dictated by the terrain or a whim of the engineer on the spot. It is however a great feeling when you get one as right as you can.
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    And then there are the plans that have been lost ot history between poor archiving and senseless vandalism...
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    Very true DB.
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