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    Okay, so multiple copies of the Constitution for the United States and President, and Java and Guerriere if I ever felt the need. But the Constellation and Congress seem in a no manís land between the extreme size of the super Frigate 44s and the larger 40s that exist within the game. Candidates for the Essex, Cheasapeake and reflagged Macedonian?

    Also, is there some semi-standardized way of handling carronade only ships such as the Essex?

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    I know there are some rules floating around for carrinades but I can’t remember if it was for a balance of them.

    http://www.aresgames.eu/16974


    https://www.sailsofglory.org/showthr...ght=Carronades
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    Hi Aaron. There is an Ares add on for Carronades, but I have searched for it in vain.
    I will scan in my hard copy and post it as soon as I get a moment.
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    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    Ares rules for carronades can be found here

    http://www.aresgames.eu/download/21177/

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    Cheers Chris.
    Don't know how I missed them.
    Rob.
    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    NP Rob, they are not well advertised as they are an add on to the Historical scenario rules
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    If you want to avoid carronades altogether and are looking for a good US ship match, the Amazons are a pretty good match the 13 Hancock class frigates ordered by the Continental Congress in 1775.

    Incidentally, I bumped the Amazons up to Burden 3 and switched decks with the Concordes. This makes the Concordes fast and agile, and the Amazons keep their good opening punch and are able to stand against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Duff View Post
    Ares rules for carronades can be found here

    http://www.aresgames.eu/download/21177/
    Thankee, Cap’n! I was just going to limit them to double-shotted, no regular shot, so as to give them more punch but a shorter range, but I’d rather go with official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbs View Post
    If you want to avoid carronades altogether and are looking for a good US ship match, the Amazons are a pretty good match the 13 Hancock class frigates ordered by the Continental Congress in 1775.

    Incidentally, I bumped the Amazons up to Burden 3 and switched decks with the Concordes. This makes the Concordes fast and agile, and the Amazons keep their good opening punch and are able to stand against them.
    Was thinking more Napoleonic era than American Revolution, but good suggestion nevertheless. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corsair View Post
    I was just going to limit them to double-shotted, no regular shot, so as to give them more punch but a shorter range, but Iíd rather go with official.
    Of course they can be double shotted at the same speed as your long guns can be loaded, or you can fire them single shotted each turn, whilst the full broadside is being loaded.
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    The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

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    Problem is, there may have been 13 Hancocks authorized, but in the end the builders pretty much did as they darn well pleased since they couldn't get copies of the plans fast enough...
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