Getting back to a bit of shipbuilding after all that terrain.
Just cutting out and fitting sails to a couple of Merchant ships.
Rob.
What's on your workbench for March.
Getting back to a bit of shipbuilding after all that terrain.
Just cutting out and fitting sails to a couple of Merchant ships.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Finishing off my Spanish Ships of the line
Still one more 74 and 4 Frigates to complete
Hebe, home made Buccentaur, British 50, French 64 and some wrecks.
Now completed fitting sails. Ready for final white undercoat.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
I have been working on my latest wreck.
Here they are together.
Work is getting in the way of play. I am making a new taffrail for a customer's boat.
Your Buccentaur is one of your stretched 74's, isn't it? Do you have a part number for the stern? I would like to give building one of these a try and want to get the same transoms that you are using.Originally Posted by TexaS
Hebe, home made Buccentaur, British 50, French 64 and some wrecks.
I don't have any parts numbers but Langton has always got it right anyway. I think I've just asked for the class or even specific ships. They are very good and helpful. I'd really recommend them.
Coming to think of it, they do have numbers for their ships, but they don't really sell the sterns separately.
I also have different sterns for my Tonnants and this Bucc.
Jonas, am I correct in understanding that you are ordering the whole Langton ship, and scavenging the stern? Am I correct that these would just be Langton Tonnant and Bucc models to get the sterns you are using?
No. I ask for just the stern and they sell them loose even though they don't offer them as loose parts.
Are they Langton Tonnant sterns? I see on the internet that there is one supplier of Langton ships in the US here. I want to make sure I get this right. Their website didn't have pictures.
I don’t think a US supplier would hack up their sets to be honest. I would guess you’d have to order from UK.
My two different stern galleries.
I do admire those Jonas. The little details added do make them believable. The draped sail and submerged mast look great.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Undercoat completed.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Well Jonas, you have decided me,
I am goint to order 4 Montanes stern galleries and a Spanish 64 for my Trafalgar project, see if
I can make these ships available
Chris, happy to be of assistance.
You impress me very much with your fleets! Detailed and huge!
So it sounds like you need a source of stern caps . . . I have elves and resin . . . Not much to do these days . . . Just saying . . .
How do you fancy having a go at Santisima Trinidad Dave?
Rob.
Last edited by Bligh; 03-21-2018 at 16:46.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Sure, why not? Will need some details though. . . The sea elves are just treading water these days . . .
Right. Here is your chance chaps. Give Clipper all that data you have on Santisima.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Santisima Trinidad?
Santisima Trinidad conversion . . . am I correct in understanding you want to convert a SNG106A or SNG106B into the Santisima Trinidad? After scouring the web it looks like the top deck becomes partially covered as the 4th gun deck - a bit of painting can do that. Then a new stern plate to give it the proper rear appearance? Here's three distinctively different rear views from the internet, choose one:
Am I listening correctly? The elves are at the ready . . .
Hmm last image is the wrong one, I will try this again . . .
Ah, there it is . . .
Come on chaps. Which one do we want?
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
If you base the conversion on SGN106 you'll need to do one of my cut off the ship in the middle but this time take out half a centimeter. It's too long.
If the Meregildos had been ok size wise that would have been the model to use.
I wouldn't mind a better stern gallery to the Océan class French ships on the other hand...
I'd go for the 2nd one.
Maybe this is an opportunity to make corrected headsails for waves 3 and 4 too?
So the second image is from a sailing SIM game, the first from a large scale model kit, the third from one of our crew. I am not sure which one is more accurate. Second item, is Ares really going to produce this ship or is well over the horizon? I don't want to create something that is going to come out soon. Third item, the lenght change, a full cm? Out of distance between the two front masts or actual center? Should I raise the height above the waterline any? Then how many should I make? The elves are planning a full new resin cast that you need only add your masts and sails and paint . . . Sound about right? Cost to cover the resin and mold medium around $75 total . . . I do need something to do till my knees return : )
Is that model really the Santissima?
I've Always seen the rounded typically Spanish rounded shape.
It's not a full cm but half. It's still more than I've cut from any ship and I removed two gunports to make HMS Surprise. From memory it's five meters or fifteen feet difference.
Basically Santissima was a Meregildos with the forecastle going all the way back. I think the difference is a foot or two.
You can check the lengths on threedecks.org
So here is the source for the first version, looks legit but I am not an expert . . .
http://victoryshipmodels.com/ship-mo...t-warship.html
Lots of nice details too! Let me know if it is correct. There are several models online at various museums as well . . . lots of variance. Steer and dirk me elves gently
I wonder if DB might chip in with one of his wonderful ship plans?
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
She was built as a 112 gun ship that had the number of guns increased.
She wasn't built bigger than other Spanish first rates.
Last edited by TexaS; 03-22-2018 at 23:11.
What are we looking at here,
Dave are you looking to make a one off Santissima for your collection, I would love to see that from you.
Or something similar to your Zepps ?
Last edited by Capn Duff; 03-23-2018 at 06:41.
I will make a master plug and resin cast a dozen or so hulls, from there we will see, just trying to get the details right. : )
Great, Ill certainly be up for one of the hulls
I have the book Ships of Trafalgar Ill check for Santissima plans but think it only shows a side elevation
As Dave knows I will be up for one of his hulls too.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Here is my project for the month although it is no where as ambitious as Rob! My copy of CONDE DE REGLA took quite a beating during shipping and arrived with a badly dented box and a broken foremast. I have followed Rob's excellent tutorial and have repaired the damage as good as new. All that is left is a little experimenting on the yellow color to match the Ares original.
I am getting the itch to try a repaint on the CONDE since she will be in dry dock anyway and I'm looking for a decent painting guide for Napoleonic era ships. I haven't seen anything in the reference section of the site, but I have noticed that Langton's sells a book on painting and rigging for small scale ships (I'm not sure if I'm up to rigging yet!). I'm open to any suggestions that people may have and if you think the Langton's book is worth the cost. Comments/suggestions are deeply appreciated.
So I am moving over to a "build" thread under the Santissima Trinidad . . . please make comemts on my research and progress . . .
Wilco that Dave.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Hi Richard,I have followed Rob's excellent tutorial and have repaired the damage as good as new. All that is left is a little experimenting on the yellow color to match the Ares original.
I am getting the itch to try a repaint on the CONDE since she will be in dry dock anyway and I'm looking for a decent painting guide for Napoleonic era ships. I haven't seen anything in the reference section of the site, but I have noticed that Langton's sells a book on painting and rigging for small scale ships (I'm not sure if I'm up to rigging yet!). I'm open to any suggestions that people may have and if you think the Langton's book is worth the cost. Comments/suggestions are deeply appreciated.
First to match the mast, I have been using GW Averland Sunset, this is a base start and you can add white or yellow to make lighter or darker to your choice.
Ref the Langton booklet, I do have a copy of this booklet and I have found it useful.
I dont have it ready to hand but the rigging section is only a few pages but it does give a reference as to where the ratlines and rigging ropes go and is very useful. I have not used the painting section too much as most ships are pre painted but it does give a few schemes for some named ships.
Most of the booklet is how to assemble Langton models but I think the booklet is worth the price and you will use it as a handy reference.
Dont be put off rigging your ships it is not that difficult and there are different degrees.
Here on the site you can see Julian from Spain and Jonas from Swe who do wonderful jobs fully rigging 1/1200 and our 1/1000 scale ships, or there is the less representative style like I do, look at my Trafalgar project to see my rigged ships done using the paintbrush or nylon bristle method.
I finish work in a weeks time so will have, at last, time on my hands to get around to a "how to" for rigging using this method so watch out.
There is also a listing for Langtons ratlines compatability with our ships in the howto section.
If I can help in any way just shout
Last edited by Capn Duff; 03-26-2018 at 16:21.
Thanks, Chris! I look forward to seeing your "how to" methodology for the rigging.
Finally managed to get started on painting my Langton small merchant ships.
I will not ship the rest of the masts and sails until the deck furniture is finished.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Not finished with the masts yet.
Just completed in time for April's workbench to start.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
It’s May but I think it’s fitting in this thread anyway...
It’s the Santissima stern gallery from Langton. I’ve had it laying around for a while...
Looking a very good fit Jonas.
Rob.
The Business of the commander-in-chief is first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.
Surprisingly so. That is why I did it.
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