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    I was digging around on the Internet today looking to see if I could track down some reliable online ship plans for 18th and 19th century US ships. I found one website where they offer National Archives plans as reprints, but without some reliable images I'm not likely to place orders sight unseen. http://marylandsilver.com/Ship.htm

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    Consequently, I tried searching the Archives directly using images on the web. Clearly if you have access to the physical collections you can have them make copies although I don't know if they're from microfilm or in house prints?

    Here's the Record Hierarchy I found for one USS Constitution sail plane that came up on the web:

    Record Group 19:
    Records of the Bureau of Ships, 1940 - 1966 Series:
    Ship Design and Construction Drawings, 1862 - 1909 Item:
    USS Constitution, Outboard Profile with Sail Plan, 1817

    The image can be found here:

    https://research.archives.gov/id/5956232

    More images are showing up, but not some of the US ships I see listed on that website above. Those I'd like to see include the USS Pennsylvania, USS Independence, USS Franklin, etc. I wish there was more content available online? In any case here are some other images you might enjoy viewing:

    https://research.archives.gov/search...naIdSort%20asc

    Cheers!
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    Fascinating stuff! I'm studying for a degree in marine engineering at the moment and am specializing in naval architecture. I have been looking for historical ship hull lines for a while. It's just a shame that there are no tables of offsets anywhere to be found!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjl View Post
    Fascinating stuff! I'm studying for a degree in marine engineering at the moment and am specializing in naval architecture. I have been looking for historical ship hull lines for a while. It's just a shame that there are no tables of offsets anywhere to be found!

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    Such a table, or at least a body plan can probably be found at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich. They have a lines plan of HMS President and general arrangement drawings

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    Yes I had heard that they have a good selection. The trouble is that most of it is not online and it's rather a long drive from Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjl View Post
    Yes I had heard that they have a good selection. The trouble is that most of it is not online and it's rather a long drive from Texas.
    I recommend the following:

    http://www.sailsofglory.org/showthre...n-Sailing-Navy

    Not sure where you are in Texas (perhaps Texas A&M, College Station or Galveston?), but it can be found at some Half Price Books. It is also fairly inexpensive on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjl View Post
    Yes I had heard that they have a good selection. The trouble is that most of it is not online and it's rather a long drive from Texas.
    Try herehttp://prints.rmg.co.uk/category/ship-plansI'm sure their president drawings are online. I recall seeing them when we were engaged in a previous discussion here about ships' lines.Good career choice, btw - I've been a naval architect working on RN warships, submarines and auxiliaries for nearly 30 years
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    And indeed....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coog View Post
    I recommend the following:

    Not sure where you are in Texas (perhaps Texas A&M, College Station or Galveston)
    I am at TAMU Galveston. That's quite a piece of deduction there! Are you an aggie yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Try herehttp://prints.rmg.co.uk/category/ship-plansI'm sure their president drawings are online. I recall seeing them when we were engaged in a previous discussion here about ships' lines.Good career choice, btw - I've been a naval architect working on RN warships, submarines and auxiliaries for nearly 30 years
    Thanks! You have basically got my dream job!

    Oh wow, that link is a gold mine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjl View Post
    Fascinating stuff! I'm studying for a degree in marine engineering at the moment and am specializing in naval architecture. I have been looking for historical ship hull lines for a while. It's just a shame that there are no tables of offsets anywhere to be found!

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    Thank you for the rep point. As David said you'd have to go a long way to beat what's available from the Royal Museums Greenwich. You can also buy those plans in case you've not discovered that yet? I wish other nations would convert their resources to online access as well as the British have. Cheers.

    http://rmg-dev.sites.ac/contact/buy-ship-plans
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    perhaps this link is useful:
    http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/enkel.htm

    Just type the ship name
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    ...put him in the brig until he's sober...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tordenskjold View Post
    Just type the ship name
    Morten
    Ok...it is mostly constructions of Danish Orlorgsskibe (warships) but there is something on eg. Victory
    ...put him in the brig until he's sober...

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    Just run across this.
    It is a super resource thanks Dave and co for highlighting it.
    Rob.

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