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    Default Statistics spreadsheet updated for Wave1 reprint

    I was hoping I'd have V&C stats to put in too, but I will refresh it again when they finally turn up...

    http://sailsofglory.org/downloads.php?do=file&id=31

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredmiracle View Post
    I was hoping I'd have V&C stats to put in too, but I will refresh it again when they finally turn up...

    http://sailsofglory.org/downloads.php?do=file&id=31
    Thank you!

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    Very helpful, indeed. Thank you.
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    I have experienced a problem trying to download this spreadsheet because apparently I have an "invalid security token". Has anyone else experienced this, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    I have experienced a problem trying to download this spreadsheet because apparently I have an "invalid security token". Has anyone else experienced this, please?
    Not I.

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    There are some I can't open but, that's not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    I have experienced a problem trying to download this spreadsheet because apparently I have an "invalid security token". Has anyone else experienced this, please?
    I'll ask Keith about this. Sometimes, things are a matter of clearing cache/cookies.
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    Excellent!



    A related question - spreadsheet lines 42 & 43 (Dryade and HMS Sybille) - with the points system how come HMS Sybille is rated 2 points less than Dryade (85 vs. 87) when the British vessel is superior (significantly better gunnery stats and everything else identical)? I haven't looked at the proposed points system at all but just picked that up in passing when perusing the spreadsheet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycenius View Post
    Excellent!



    A related question - spreadsheet lines 42 & 43 (Dryade and HMS Sybille) - with the points system how come HMS Sybille is rated 2 points less than Dryade (85 vs. 87) when the British vessel is superior (significantly better gunnery stats and everything else identical)? I haven't looked at the proposed points system at all but just picked that up in passing when perusing the spreadsheet...
    Yes Ares did make a few mistakes. Here were some thoughts I had in a PM a while back:

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmiracle
    Regarding the official SGN costing:

    There are two head-slapping mistakes--HMS Queen Charlotte and HMS Sybille. They are off by a big margin, perhaps 10 points or so, and presumably represent typos.

    Then there are a couple more ships which are "wrong," but within fairly small margins.
    - Imperial is costed two points higher than Orient, despite having one less gunnery factor, and one more musketry factor. Probably Imperial should be either 206 or 207
    - HMS Amelia is clearly a few points too high, since it should come in at or below Dryade, probably 86

    Beyond those, as far as I can see, the ships seem to be sequenced correctly by cost within each class, so it becomes more a question of judgement calls, rather than clear-cut error. One can quibble over whether a small difference in stats should merit a difference in cost (Bellerophon and Bellona, for instance, at the same cost despite a couple of differences in musketry). But the variance shouldn't be be more than a point or possibly two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredmiracle View Post
    Yes Ares did make a few mistakes. Here were some thoughts I had in a PM a while back:

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmiracle View Post
    Regarding the official SGN costing:

    There are two head-slapping mistakes--HMS Queen Charlotte and HMS Sybille. They are off by a big margin, perhaps 10 points or so, and presumably represent typos.

    Then there are a couple more ships which are "wrong," but within fairly small margins.
    - Imperial is costed two points higher than Orient, despite having one less gunnery factor, and one more musketry factor. Probably Imperial should be either 206 or 207
    - HMS Amelia is clearly a few points too high, since it should come in at or below Dryade, probably 86

    Beyond those, as far as I can see, the ships seem to be sequenced correctly by cost within each class, so it becomes more a question of judgement calls, rather than clear-cut error. One can quibble over whether a small difference in stats should merit a difference in cost (Bellerophon and Bellona, for instance, at the same cost despite a couple of differences in musketry). But the variance shouldn't be be more than a point or possibly two.
    Cheers Fred!

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    Fred, have you written to Andrea or Roberto about the point discrepancies, or would you like me to Get The Clue-Bat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Fred, have you written to Andrea or Roberto about the point discrepancies, or would you like me to Get The Clue-Bat?
    I thought about posting something on BGG (which they seem to read) but I never got around to it. It would make sense for you to pass along the word directly, especially if they are about to put out an update. I don't suppose they need to be battered by it, but perhaps a friendly nudge will be in order

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    The spreadsheet has external links to another file that I don't have. Where do I find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amara View Post
    The spreadsheet has external links to another file that I don't have. Where do I find it?
    Is that using openoffice? Sadly it's formulas aren't compatible with xl so I've seen it generate that error...

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