It’s the British flagged ship, but I think it’ll do. They are basically the same anyway.
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Jonas, I only include the Montanes class because they're structurally and dimensionally almost identical to the Ildefonsos they're an evolution of. That's a proven Structural Engineering relationship and a very close one, the first column is basically a list of Francisco Gautier's 74's, which could vary up to four meters within the same "nominal" class. Did I ever send you the spreadsheet I started building on Spanish ships?
Pre-Montanes 80's are enough bigger, and I haven't seen sufficient drawings for a "shape" comparison," that at this point I'm just not comfortable lumping them in with the 74's, or necessarily even clustering them into a single sculpt.
Bahama and Ildefonso should be about 53mm LGD (for model purposes measure below LD ports), Gautier 74's range from ~51 to ~55.
They are spot on.
(Not the Bahama since I don't have any "correct model for her yet, but the others.)
So we're still thinking "demote Ares Bahama to a 64-gunner and replace," then. Actually, on LGD Ares Bahama almost looks more like a very fat 50... I need to get one of my SGN104's and an SGN102 out of storage to see how they size up.
That's what I'm thinking so far. I don't have any other Spanish 64.
Jonas, you should find a little surprise that I hope helps in your email. :)
Demote the Bahama to a 64 and fill the gap will fill in my gap there DB. Only wish we had some Spanish Sloops. My Barbary pirates could do with nicking a couple.
Rob.
Here are a couple of shots of the completed Tripoli Harbour.More to follow tomorrow. Rob.
It should also be noted that I've revised the table on Spanish 74's above in light of conflicting depictions on San Damaso.
Incredible work Rob! Everything blends perfectly with the backdrop as well. Very impressive, sir, very impressive indeed! :clap:
Anthony
Rob, that's just... just... incredible.
Indeed. Makes me wish we could get a terrain manufacturer to license produce his work.
Hating the Canada class right now... even when I start with absurdly tiny bits, drilling the mizzen breaks the on-deck bitt(?) every time. I'm starting to think about suggesting a tool for cutting masts from round toothpicks... Had several folks ask if it was just them or I'd gotten better with Purisima Concepcion, biggest change is finding nerve to tackle gallery windowframes.
Thanks Jonas.
As you said earlier, maybe we will get to play a game together with it one of these days.
To think it was all started by Sven because he wanted to do that Battle of the Nile at Doncaster. Otherwise I would probably still be swanning about in the Indian Ocean.
Thanks for the Rep, it is bringing me even closer to that elusive 1000 points.
Rob.
Rob, very very pretty, a really candy for the eyes. You have achieved something really difficult, integrate the colors of the model into the background with a feeling of considerable realism. :clap::clap::clap:
DB, for my Canada (and all of the resin prints), I discovered I had to use a bit between thumb and forefinger carefully and slowly reaming out the holes. A pinvise or Dremel would destroy the deck or bulwarks.
Thanks, Vol--the only trouble-spots I've had with my pinvise are Canadas and the jib sockets. It might help that I start with a very small bit and "progressively bore" rather than doing it all at once, and at the same time I shave the mast or jib so I'm working the problem from both sides, and that on the ships that arrived un-rafted I started drilling from the bottom up. Quite agree that power tools are contraindicated here. :)
How far inside the hull is the jib supposed to seat? I'm considering taking the Easy Button, cutting that much off, shaving the jib sides to clear those two posts (forgive me, name escapes me) and supergluing that.
I must also say a thank you to Vol for the Rep he has awarded to me.
Rob.
Here are a few shots of the completed Tripoli and harbour prior to ships and extras being added.
And the dockside defences.
The Castle rock and town defences.https://sailsofglory.org/attachment....id=54615&stc=1https://sailsofglory.org/attachment....id=54616&stc=1
After considering the target size of my 3D printed Spanish fleet it grew a little. These are the ships I'm currently planning.
My primary goal is to have the "correct" ships for Trafalgar, but also the number of ships to play Cape St Vincent.
New paint scheme refers to what was painted at Trafalgar and older is either from paintings or generally not just a yellow line for each gun deck.
* Painted hull
Nepomuceno Ildefonso Montañés Nicolás Maregildos Purísima Concepción New paint scheme
San Juan Nepomuceno *
San Francisco de Asis *
San Agustin
Old paint scheme
San Pablo *
San Isidro *
San Antonio *New paint scheme
San Ildefonso *
Old paint scheme
San Francisco de Paula
Infante don Pelayo
Conquistador
SoberanoNew paint scheme
Montañés *
Monarca *
Argonauta *
Neptuno *Old paint scheme
San Nicolás de Bari *
FenixNew paint scheme
Santa Ana
Principe de Asturias
Real Carlos
Old paint scheme
Mejicano
Salvador del Mundo
Conde de ReglaNew paint scheme
Purísima Concepción
Old paint scheme
San José
I haven't decided how to handle San Justo yet. She will have a modern paint scheme, but I'm not sure what model I should use. I'm leaning towards Nepomuceno.
Still want Henry to make Rayo from Fenix. Don't have any idea for 64s, other than using Sails of Glory mini 74s.
That will hopefully happen at Doncaster in September Jonas. Thank you for your help with the Frigates. They are next on my painting list.
Rob.
September? That's a tight month for me. I would have liked to visit now that the world opens up to vaccinated people. Well, I guess there'll be more chances.
What a beautiful crafted port Rob, I look forward to seeing it later this year
A good start, Jonas... personally I'm trying to build the complete classes ship-for-ship, which means I'm gonna need Slade 74's and Temeraires by the job-lot. And a LOT of creativity giving them each unique identification markings that still either look believable or at least don't stand out as unbelievable. (Canada's green beakhead is rather more so than the Rogers Collection model, but at least you can see some green color when you look down on it.)
If you haven't already you might also check Todo A Babor for additional color ideas... either Purisima Concepcion or one of the Meregildos seems to have later been repainted with a variation of the black "wedge" on the forward quarters associated with San Jose.
San Antonio is also kind of up in the air re her class... she's newer than Bahama, which is kind of a transitional form between the older Gautier designs and the later "second-phase" French inspired ones like Ildefonso-Montanes. I had penciled her in closer to Ildefonso but I could *very* easily be wrong when all I have to work with is date and dimensions--even the models at Madrid are of dubious identity.
The 3d ships have started a volcano of activity in May. Brilliant work on the ships and Robs harbour defences are superb, especially the way they blend into the background scene.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::salute::salute::salute:
Just done my PMs and saw the Rep. Thanks very much Chris and John.
:thanks:
Rob.
Here is the completed village and "English Fort."
And here it is in situ.