Thought I'd better get the drilling done first Jonas, and then realised that the wire I shove up the mast fits the ready made holes, so only had to drill for the bowsprit and peg under the hull. That was a relief.
Rob.
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Thought I'd better get the drilling done first Jonas, and then realised that the wire I shove up the mast fits the ready made holes, so only had to drill for the bowsprit and peg under the hull. That was a relief.
Rob.
Would it help if I measure my Victory for you DB?
Rob.
That'd be a huge help again--I need overall length from jib tip to spanker tip or rear of base (rearmost point), height on base from tabletop to masthead and width of base--hopefully it comes in under 3-1/8" tall, 2-1/4" width and 4-1/2" extreme length. Thanks. :)
Wish I'd remembered about these months ago, Sportsman's Warehouse over here has 'em on a Father's Day Sale for seven bucks each this weekend.
Do we all put a peg on the ship hulls or leaving the peg off ?
Thanks, Rob. Constitution might be a better length measure unless the Oceans are longer still.
Wish I knew where the old measurements from when I was scratch-designing a case got filed...
I will get on it today and see which is the largest ship in my collection DB.
Rob.
I finished my Camilla yesterday but I went to bed instead of posting my work.
Here she is.
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Last picture shows a kind of repaint. The gallery side window appears to have been round on at least some of the Bellona frigates at least for some time. I painted it this way to try it out.
Gorgeous Jonas. :clap:
Rob.:cannonboom:
And the answer is as follows:- all three ships, Constitution, Victory, and the Oceans are 3 & 5/8" long from tip of the Jib to rear of the base. No Spankers overhang. Heighs are from table to tip of Mainmast 3 & 1/8" but Victory overtops them at 3 & 3/16" Base width is a smidgeon under 2" say 1 & 63/64ths.
Rob.
Thank you for the reputation, Vol and Rob!
Again, just superb Jonas
You are welcome Jonas. Just thanks for your inspirational lead on these Frigates and the super painting guide it has provided.
I got the deck and hull started on my first today before the light got too bad. I prefer painting detail in natural light rather than artificial as the shadows are more diffused.
Rob.
Thanks, Chris.
Great to hear, Rob.
I tried to make them interesting…
After seeing your masts I got inspired to actually finish my first 3D printed ship, but after dropping it on the floor four times I’ll end it for tonight. I’ll finish her tomorrow.
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Thanks, Rob--I'll try to remember to take a ruler and swing by Sportsman's Wednesday. Victory MAY be okay with a slight tilt.
Also, while we'd lose three ships' capacity, this case might be a better fit because of the large open-section having room for logs, decks and chit bags--other than the rulebooks and mats, I almost think you could fit one if not two full Starters in here.
https://www.planomolding.com/fishing...k-storage-3700
Jonas, you've inspired me with another "team project" idea based on that table I previously built: I'm tempted to suggest a Google sheet with the various Turner, Mann and Ares miniatures, and links to whatever paintings or dockyard models we can find of ships which that sculpt is accessible for. Along with noting the "Ares" schemes where applicable; my suggestion when Ares and Contemporary Source differ is swap the Ares paper onto a Turner/Mann miniature then pair the Ares model with custom cards of a "no known references" sister. For the record, I am obligated to point out that I see this as complement and expansion, not competition--there is a better chance of my girlfriend letting me, and me actually getting the chance to, invite a supermodel to join our household and bear and raise children with us, and have her accept and it all work out, than there is of Ares even scratching the surface exhausting the Reprint Candidate pools on Slade Common 74s, Temeraires and Hebe-lineage medium frigates. (And if Ares *does* release a miniature we've already done, no biggie, just swap identities since paper is cheap--just as I've already done with my own Invincible and Minden.)
Update: 3780 doesn't work, it's too short at 2.8" exterior height--might be good for frigates though. Long skinny compartments on 3730 and 3780 both look to have around 2" of clear space; I think dividers on 3730 can be set at 4" spacing which would work with a little stickyback foam and some spacer cushioning to go around the masts.
Further update: Plano moldings are 1/16" thick, so most threedeckers would JUST fit but Victory is problematic. She might need dismounting to work. Now trying to decide whether to add magnet-and-washer mounting to my Ares ships and clip the pins, M&W but keep the pins, or just stay as-is.
Then I need some ideas with sorting and storage systems... group by nation and rating (say, all British First Rates together in one box, French in another, Spanish in a third), group as squadrons by launch year (say a First Rate and several 74's) or group as opposed pairs of equal rate?
DB, It's an interesting idea. It would be good to have, but it'll be a lot of work.
This is why I suggest a team project. :) If I just throw up a Google sheet and we can all plug in links to contemporary paintings and dockyard models as we find them... well, one ship here and another there, and with just a little investment at a time we could have a good size database surprisingly quick. Like handing a hundred guys shovels and having 'em each turn a few shovelfuls of dirt to dig a ditch, "many hands make for light work." Even if all anyone else does is plug in a reference link and I break it down into gallery, gallery trim, base hull, side marking, and beakhead colors myself...
Big question... this one has Tremendous and Minden stalled. In the "Whitewalls" era (War of 1812 and Late Napoleonic), would beakheads have typically been white, or still yellow?
I wonder if we could do it here on the forum, kind of like what Rob did in the historical section.
Perhaps we could add model suggestions to his threads?
Or perhaps shorter posts without the history of the ships. I would think notable actions would be good to have though.
For a sampling, I've started my own Excel spreadsheet with a tab each for Simon, Henry, Ares British, Ares French, Ares Spanish and Ares US. For ships Ares has officially released, I'm giving two entries, one each "as released" and "documented historical."
My suggestion for British ships from about the 1740s-1770s, Intrepid seems to be the standard "as launched" baseline. Beak tops are seldom shown on paintings or well photographed on models, so thought that might be a good place for discreet "model ID" markings if we can come up with a list of plausible period colors various fleets would've had readily available as shipboard/dockyard stores.
Sculpt Yr compl Ship Gallery main Gallery trim Hull main Hull stripes Toprail Fwd bulwark Beak rails Beak top Ref Ref Link Intrepid 1771 Intrepid Gold ?Prussian Blue Varnished wood Prussian Blue top
Prussian Blue over Black waterlineGold Prussian Blue Gold
Prussian Blue cutwater? NMM dockyard model Intrepid 1778 America (Ares) Gold or Golden Yellow Yellow Black waterline and U/W Black Black Gold or Golden Yellow Intrepid 1782 Polyphemus (Ares) Gold or Golden Yellow Yellow Black waterline and U/W Black Black Gold or Golden Yellow Intrepid 1782 Standard ? ? Black White gundecks ?Black ? Golden Yellow ? 1807 Duckworth forcing Dardanelles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D...ardanelles.jpg Intrepid 1783 Diadem Golden Yellow Black Black Yellow LD Black Black Golden Yellow ? 1806 Cape of Good Hope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H..._Whitcombe.jpg
Feel free to use those as you will Chaps.
At the moment I am still on the British Frigates, but have stalled a bit due to inertia. I was toying with doing something similar for the American Navy to get a bit of a change, but will help out however I can.
Rob.
Jonas, there was a time when I was actually doing companion threads with modeling comments, before the Age of SLP... we could bring it back, personally I think the "ideal" would be to interleave Rob's historical commentary on a ship as one post and my own or another Stats Committee member's modeling and statting recommendations as a second post immediately following.
Whilst waiting for paint to dry on my first Swedish Frigate, I decided to attempt to complete a project started by me 35 years ago.
At present rate this should take about four more days,
Today's work included fitting the slide mechanism, putting the ring bolts in place and rounding off the slider ends.
Nice project.
Todays work included gluing up the traverse mechanism for the Carronade.
https://sailsofglory.org/attachment....id=54884&stc=1
Rob.
Today's work on the Carronade.
Firstly completing the slide mechanism
And this afternoon I produced the Gun port.
Nice model Rob. Did this come as a kit?
Not a kit Jonas.
Turned, milled and soldered together by me. Begun 37 years ago and I just got around to finishing it off this week.
Rob.
Here is what I have done today.Turned and drilled out the wheels for the traverse.
Also roughed out the axel support brackets.
Wow. You started that before I started elementary school... :) And I thought my pair of B-29 atomic bombers that have been collecting dust on the bench for a decade and the custom competition pistol I started doodling out in college 20 years ago but never started cutting metal on were "stalled projects"...
Wow Rob, that is beautiful work!
Thanks for the comments chaps and thanks for the Rep Vol.
I am just about to process the photos from today's work which I will download in a few minutes time.
Rob.
Today's work.Cutting out and filing the brackets to shape.