Yet another Spanish ship hull finished.
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Yet another Spanish ship hull finished.
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Wow! Beautiful! I wish I had your painting skills Jonas!
I agree Vol.
I was not that good even in the old days.
Rob.
Magnificent work again Jonas. Rep broadside fired.
Rob.:cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom::cannonboom:
The model is moving on a pace today.The walls are all cut to size and trialled before gluing and the end of the rocky outcrop has been modelled and is in place.
https://sailsofglory.org/attachment....id=54548&stc=1Now the rock has been shaded and the walls dry brushed and stuck down ready for adding the details.
Thank you both. That magnifying lamp has made wonders.
Thanks for the reputation.
That is gorgeous, Rob!
Jonas, my GF on your work: "That Jonas guy must be young, or has amazing eyesight (yes, I realise that magnification is a must when painting that small)"
Victory figurehead gilded, other than touchup all hulls now on hold and on to mast assembly and sorting-out.
A few years past 50 and near sighted...
Funny thing: The one thing on that last ship I'm most proud of is the figurehead. There wasn't any on the model. I just painted that in. Most of the other stuff is just painting in the raised stuff that's already there on the model.
I think she meant it as a compliment, amigo--she's just past 50 herself, and used to do figurines of various kinds herself in her 20's and 30's.
I took it as that.
Next ship will be Neptuno. Just started painting her exterior.
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Jonas, is that brown shade your standard for Spanish inside bulwarks? Was just thinking if so, I might take a cue from you and detail the two PC's in the same shade as I used for Canada and Orion's hulls. :)
I have been using it on the bulwarks to avoid having the same colour on the gun carriages and bulwarks. I wanted the gun carriages stand out more. It might not be perfectly historically accurate, but it's a reddish brown... :wink:
Thanks, amigo. You just got the two Spanish threedeckers moving again... color me dumb, but were there any glass skylights anywhere in the upper decks or was illumination all candles and whatever came in the hatches?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...524_170920.jpg
Trial run browning the bulwarks and details on the PC's. They've now leapfrogged to "most complete" even with Concepcion needing new lanterns.
Anyone heard anything from Henry lately, by the way?
As for Victory... can't find the original image I was working from again, seriously considering stripping her back to primer and going Early Georgian varnished wood with Prussian Blue.
This just doesn't cut it as a reference...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014...47_306x423.jpg
Henry's just releasing his Kickstarter for Napoleonic soldiers.
Age of Admirals, as he call the Napoleonic era ships, is not on the table until possibly late summer/autumn.
After looking a bit into Rayo I'm thinking he could make a modified Fenix and be close. More or less what Santissima was to the common three decker. It would be a new ship for a tenth of the work. But, I'm dreaming here. I've even downloaded Blender to see if I could do it myself and realized CADs look different to how they looked back in the 80ies, early 90ies when I last worked as a mechanical engineer.
Just thought I'd check because my print batch appears to have had a mismatch on mizzenmasts (over one First Rate, under one Third Rate, missing three spankers), and he's kinda quiet on emails. Not gonna ask him about sending replacements, was thinking more ask him if he'd give permission to see if anyone here on this side of the Pond could print me replacements at reasonable cost.
Test fitting masts on HMS San Josef, see if anybody can spot the Oops... :) (Other than that I'm not fighting with spankers until I have everything else sorted out and ready for install, anyway.)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...524_223408.jpg
As for modifying Fenix, it worked fullscale, no reason it shouldn't in miniature--also the reverse reducing ST back to a three-decker. (I'm assuming the stalled Ares Special will be the four-decker version.)
They have even changed significantly since I retired in the early 2000s Jonas.
I am even looking at the clarity detail on your chaps photographs, and thinking that I need to get out my old SLR and tripehound to get some decent shots of mine. Although the compact is good, I find that the focus on closeups can be a bit lacking in sharpness, or maybe it is just my eye again.
Rob.
But I was a leading edge aerospace engineer! CATIA high tech stuff run on supercomputers back in -92. It shouldn't be so far behind where free software to be run on home computers in my home are now. It's just... Oh... thirty? That's not possible...
I use my iPhone. I think it works ok. Just get lights on the object and sometimes tap it to make sure the focus is in the right place in the picture.
Only had my iPhone a week Jonas. Not tried any photos on it yet, but Mrs Bligh gets some crackers on hers.
Rob.
Work on cliff top almost completed. Next is to finish the cliffs around the mole and harbour.
Excellent work Rob. Its really coming along nicely.
Anthony
Jonas:
I just set up my Photon Mono. I bought a bottle of Anycubic grey plant based resin to start with. I have a couple of question: Which slicer are you using? Are those supports and base automatic or did you configure them manually?
What exposure times have you been using?
I did also get a W&C station. I found a used Anycubic W&C original version on Ebay. Of course after I got it Anycubic dropped the price on the 2.0! Hopefully it should work fine for smaller prints.
I use Lychee for supports, but if you want anti-aliasing to work you have to slice it with Anycubics own slicer.
The automatic supports are not that good. I place them manually. Medium supports quite close as you can see in the picture. Even closer at the lowest points as that's where it starts. Then I put light supports to the catheads and possibly to the lower parts of lanterns. I don't support any guns.
I use 2s and 20s. They may vary with what resin you use. I got the times from watching youtube instructions and there's some calibration prints you can print that will let you see if it's over exposed or under exposed from how they print.
I'm not sure what the difference is with the W&Cs, but as long you can put the build plate in it without having to remove the prints, it'll be great.
And by the way...
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Looks like this now.
Finished.
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Big question now is which hull I should paint now.
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Bottom right and all on supports are to be painted, but where do I start.
Jonas do you use washes or inks, in particular on the deck?
There’s a how-to on how I do my decks.
Here’s a link for painting ideas for Spanish, by the way.
https://www.carlosparrillapenagos.es/pintura-naval/
It may have been posted before but I put it here just in case anyway.
That Spanish coat of arms on the stern is just the gilt on the gingerbread Jonas. That is what I call serious one upman SHIP.
Superlative work.
:salute:
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Rob.:salute:
My harbour extension is now completed. Tomorrow I hope to have it and the upgraded town in position.
Rob.
Looks great Rob! I can't wait to see it with the town. Anthony
That is a great looking harbour part, Rob.
And that play of words was great too.
Thank you for your kind words. When I saw that coat of arms on the big models I thought I could do it a little bit too big and just put a little red in the white and a little yellow in the red and the brain will do the rest. I really liked how it turned out so I have kept doing them. Mostly I don't know the stern gallery decoration for the ships. I may go back and touch up some of the first, just to make them unison.
Gun carriages for two fair Spanish ladies, along with Purisima Concepcion's gallery...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...526_210325.jpg
Now why can't the supply depot get the white I need for her beakhead and Tremendous's stripes? :(
Great work, DB.
After reflecting on what Rob said and that I really like the coat of arms I looked at the finished hulls... I’m not sure if I should change anything even though I can easily see which was painted first and which I had learned a lesson or two.
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I personally would not touch them Jonas. Not all dockyard maties were as puncticillious as you are with their workmasnship, and for what it's worth they all look splendid to me.
Rob.
Thanks, Jonas. Personally, I think the replacement lanterns stand out like a good hard turn-the-outies-into-innies kick in the junk, but...
Yours are all unique, all beautifully painted and all "can't find any reason NOT to consider them believable." :) Still trying to select schemes and find references for planning my batch of Nepomucenos when I find a way to get them printed... Jonas, how would you say Henry's SJN's or whichever Ildefonsino you're using compare to Ares Bahama?
Right now I'm tentatively inclined to say we can use existing Spanish 74 sculpts for:
Note: Todo A Babor reconstruction shows San Damaso with enclosed gallery, 1797 as-taken British drawing shows closed lower open upper.
Turner Nepomuceno (open gallery)
bold=Ares correctionAres SGN112 Bahama (closed gallery) Ildefonso-Montanes 1766 San Juan Nepomuceno
1766 San Pascual Bailon
1767 San Francisco de Asis
1768 San Agustin
1768 San Lorenzo
1769 San Francisco de Paula
1769 Santo Domingo
1768 San Isidro
1768 San Julian
1770 San Pedro Apostol
1771 San Pablo
1772 San Gabriel
1771 San Joaquin
1772 San Juan Bautista
1773 Santo Angel de la Guarda
1773 San Miguel
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1782 HMS San Miguel
1797 HMS San Ysidro
1805 HMS San Juan
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1799 FR Alliance1776 San Damaso
1779 San Justo
1782 San Fermin
1783 San Sebastian
1784 Bahama
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1797 HMS San Damaso
1805 HMS Bahama1785 San Antonio
1785 San Ildefonso
1788 San Francisco de Paula
1788 San Telmo
1789 Europa
1790 Intrepido
1791 Infante don Pelayo
1791 Soberano
1792 Conquistador
1794 Monarca
1794 Montanes
1795 Argonauta
1795 Neptuno
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1801 HMS San Antonio
1805 HMS Ildefonso
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1801 FR St Antoine
1801 FR Intrepide
1801 FR Conquerant
1802 FR Desaix
You are of course right. I'd better paint more hulls and get the fleet finished rather than get bogged down by details that really are good enough.
If I want to make a better looking stern on a ship, I should print a new one and paint that one better when these are finished.
I honestly think they look enough like the originals, just not painted. The texture of the lanterns themselves is more or less useless to me as they are too small to do anything with, but I don't mind them sculpting the lanterns well. When you put some paint on them and it's finished I think it will be hard to see the difference.
I tried to find paintings or models to use as reference to make them believable if not historically correct. A lot of the paintings are from the front and doesn't show the stern gallery, and when they do, it's often very simplified or dark, hiding any details. I was a little bit worried that more than thirty years difference in paintings and models being a completely different medium would give them a bit too much diversity, but I find that Simon vs Henry probably made a bigger difference.
I'm still planning to use it, but I havent really looked at it sinca I started to paint the hulls. I may take some pictures later.
This is a great table! I wish I had that when I decided which ships to paint. It wouldn't made any difference, but it'd been so much easier. I went through OoBs and referenced the ships to find out age and size to decide what ship it would be unless already clearly in a class.
As there are a few 80s (or 74s used as 80s) in there, I'm wondering if we should add the Fenix/San Nicolas de Bari.
I asked Henry on Facebook if he had considered Rayo from Fenix. He said he'd add it to his monthly poll among his Patreon for paying members. That was a bit of a bummer as I'd rather see a Neptune-class or even a London-class rather than a little mofification to an existing model. And the patreons have alredy voted on WWI ships for the last months so I have little hope that will work out. By the way, those sculpts end up on Wargamer3D or some site like that after a while.