I thought the one (ONLY ONE) bright side about the bases being so thick is from the Gencon pictures it looks like it should be easy to glue rare earth magnets in the hollow space without drilling or modifying the bases. Attachment 6487
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I thought the one (ONLY ONE) bright side about the bases being so thick is from the Gencon pictures it looks like it should be easy to glue rare earth magnets in the hollow space without drilling or modifying the bases. Attachment 6487
Hi All,
I think that you are all too concerned about handling the ships, Rigged or unrigged (see my album). I use Large sandwich boxes (for 12-13 ships) with a nonslip mat cut to size and add a sheet of bubble wrap over the top before closing the lid. As I do not plan to throw them around and they have been to many games and events I am happy with this. I did put the boxes in a larger box which broke and the lot landed on the floor (a 2-3 ft drop) and had no damage. I have now a large plastic box to put the sandwich boxes in.
Be safe
Rory
Yes, thanks for this rory, I have seen how you illustrate handling your ships, and am impressed by the strength they seem to have.
however, once upon a time, when gaming with some of my mates, whenever we packed our figures for a game, along with the dice and the tape, would be a tube of glue, as a wheel would come off a tank, figures would come off their bases, or some other catastrophe would befall them, like being covered with scrambled egg! :cry:
maybe when you grip the ship, you don't pretend to be the man of steel, or maybe I have just been unlucky.
My boss used to describe me as risk averse!
rabbit
Rory, and now you know why I want my ships wrapped in gossamer, plucked from the wings of angels, then wrapped in a large steel box, marked "THIS WAY UP" and with a huge razor sharp spike on the top to discourage anyone from sitting on it.
to quote someone more eloquent than me...
"just because you are paranoid, does not mean they are not out to get you"
you keep safe too
Rab
Somebody just got a Baby Ruth bar scheduled for delivery into his punchbowl. :P
Keys to a Good Practical Joke:
1) Do no actual harm. (Hence the replacement of the original with a carefully-made -- and demolished -- clone.)
2) Confuse or alarm, but do not humiliate. (AKA "The Carrie Rule". >:) )
3) Make sure when the trigger is pulled, you are *not* in the vicinity. (The mark will invariably look to the people standing around pointing and laughing for the perpetrator; one need only be there long enough to see it has worked -- then one should become Scarce.)
The works of baseball player, and invertebrate prankster*, Jay Johnstone are required reading on the topic.
[*: He was spineless in his inability to not pull pranks. >;) ]
As to those wondering about me: Look at my avatar -- what part of that says "nice guy"? ;)
"You cheated!"
"Pirate...."
Depends how it's done... you can be Crushingly Humiliating and still legal, like an embarrassing question you KNOW they're gonna lie to with the proof they're filling the bilges with Brown Smelly conveniently at hand.
Chris, back in junior-high and high-school I preferred the works of George Hayduke. LOL
"Screw unto others before they get unto you!" LOL
*Palpatine cackle* Oh heck no... I fight a LOT dirtier once somebody lights me off.
Three quotes that are my guiding philosophy on life:
"Don't confuse patience with weakness."
"Beware the fury of a patient man."
"The truth told with ill intent beats all the lies a man can invent."
Though Chris and I do part ways on that last one: "Never leave a man behind."
Keith, the idea of the laser is great, especially for making trays to order.
I look forward to the other creations you mentioned, e.g. forts.
Yes, being able to produce a single tray to match a customers collection again will be really nice. Of course, it will take me a little while to get up to speed on manufacturing these myself.
Keith, just noticed this thread now. Based on my experience with the demo kit which we discussed in email, I'd recommend option 3 in the OP.
Eric, what do you think based upon the way I packaged them with extra foam?
Hi Guys,
Have 17 ships that desperately need a good storage/travel solution. any updates on a Foam case? Any other suggestions?
Thanks, Jeff
Affirmative. Two 3" trays. Which is part of why I'm not sure how they'll work. In my haste to get the demo kit ships off to the next venue, I totally forgot to measure the biggest ships. I think height-wise theyll be fine, but the 3" trays I got have 1" pluck pieces, which might be too thick if they're more than 1" thick, as I'm sure they aren't close to 3" thick. I'm hoping the sails are just under 2" wide. That'd be perfect. I plan on storing the bases on their sides or in another tray entirely. It'll depend on how the pluck foam shapes out and what's left over.
My other issue is my lovely wife got me a ton of Dust models for Christmas and holding out for my SoG ships to use the foam for is driving me nuts. :cannonboom:
Curtis, the BLU Pluck and Sabol foam trays have 1/2" plucks.
Yes they do, and I've been very happy with the BLU stuff I've used in the past. However, my FLGS only carries Battlefoam now, and I actually ordered mine during their 25% off Black Friday sale. Plus, I got the limited edition blue 720 bag. I thought a blue bag for my sailing vessels highly appropriate. While I can fit two BLU trays in the 720 turned sideways, it's not a perfect fit - almost too snug front-to-back, 1-inch left over space side-to-side. It's what I'll do if the BF foam is not going to fit right.
For others who haven't invested yet in a bag, I'd highly recommend one that fits the BLU foam, as it's much softer and more flexible than the others, and will probably be better for the sails of our little fleets. The bases are firm though, so there is very little twist in the trays when models are in them. Definitely my favorite foam, just not my favorite bags. BF bags, while pricey, are very, very stout.
any links or pics for all this stuff?
Its like a foreign language to this long time boardgamer but new mini guy.
:-)
The BLU foam is nice... but nothing compared to the new foam I will be using :shootright:
Which is...?
Official foam coming out? K/R Multicase and Ares continuing the love? I'd buy it if they do! I use K/R for my Dropzone Commander stuff and love it!
@ jnewell68...
Battlefoam - http://us.battlefoam.com/
K/R Multicase - http://www.krmulticase.com/
Portable Warfare (Blü Foam) - http://www.portablewarfare.com/products/
Sabol Designs - http://www.saboldesigns.net/home.html
Welcome to the miniatures gaming addiction! :drinks:
After you've plucked the foam for whatever your custom desired shape is...do you guys reinforce the remaining foam "ribs" that are left with something so it's pluck nature doesn't come back to haunt you by eventually coming apart through continued hands pulling stuff out, bumping, and such?
I'm copying this from my post on the Aerodrome site, so it talks about planes instead of ships. The foam type and details still apply though...
I've spent a lot of time searching for and researching different foam types to use. I've narrowed it down to two main types of foams. These foams are not being used by any of the other miniatures storage companies. These are a higher quality and denser types of foam and will allow for some very unique and useful options to the trays.
My old style foam (and the foam used by "the other guys") looks like this:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...8&d=1385916864
As you can see, with just a little pressure you can easily compress the foam. This type of foam gives good protection to your minis from bouncing around in the cutouts, but offers little protection to the top layers of minis if something, or someone, should fall on top of them.
One of the new types of foam I'm testing is shown below. As you will see in this photo, the same pressure applied to it hardly makes a dent in the foam at all.
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...9&d=1385916864
This new type of foam has a much smaller "bubble structure" and gives it great strength. These new style trays should not bend when you load them full of planes and pick them up from one end. It also has a much smoother surface, so some of the pointy bits of your minis will be a lot less likely to get stuck in the foam. The other type (see the next 4 photos below) I'm testing has a larger bubble structure, but is chemically completely different. It has a very nice looking textured surface and will offer great protection in every direction. With both of these new foam types, I'll be able to offer some visual combinations...
Entente and Allied trays:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...2&d=1385916866
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...1&d=1385916865
Central Powers and Axis trays:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...6&d=1384639415
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...5&d=1384639414
Having different colors for the base layer will allow us to quickly identify which side's planes are in which trays. Just open up your bag and you can instantly see which trays hold your German planes for example.
The base layer is also of a even more dense foam, again adding to the protection and durability of the trays.
With any of the new foam types I"m looking at, there is another benefit that I'm excited to tell you guys about. And that is that not only can the cavities be cut out with the laser, but I can actually engrave on them too!
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/att...8&d=1384639417
That photo does not really do it justice, but the word Plane is engraved right into the foam. It is a very clean engraving and would allow me the option to engrave the name of the plane next to each cavity, or even which types of planes are in that tray. With that last option, you could open your bag and the sides of the trays would tell you which planes were in each one! I can only do this on the long side of the trays as the laser I'm getting is not deep enough to engrave on the short end of the trays (they are 13 inches long that way).
Doing all of this in house will also allow me to offer custom layouts for those of you that collect your ships in numbers other than one of each Wave.
Keith, have you tried a test for vertical and horizontal ships?
I'm waiting for my ships to arrive to see if they are strong enough to be stored on its side (my preference) without damage to added rigging.