HMS Culloden.

[Bligh]

Can anyone please advise me on the best fit for stats and cards for the HMS Culloden.

Rob.

[Diamondback]

Which one? 1776 wouldn't appreciably differ from SGN104, the later Ganges I'm not sure but might be a tiny bit better.

[Bligh]

I think that Henry's is the Ganges one.
Rob.

[Diamondback]

Correct, sir--the 1776 ship is just a "fat" (albeit only by about six INCHES IIRC) version of the Bellona-Arrogant-Edgar line, my chart for Ares has her slipstreamed onto SGN104 alongside her relatives.

The Ganges class... my first thought is start with SGN104 as a base, when I get back to the laptop this afternoon my time I'll see if I can find anything in Winfield and ask David Manley if he has time to suggest any warrented tweaks.

[Bligh]

That is very good of you DB.
Thanks.
Rob.

[Diamondback]

GANGES Class. Edward Hunt’s only 74-gun design, to which three ships were ordered (it was revived for a further pair of ships in 1801, and in modified form for a sixth vessel in 1811). Fast and weatherly ships, if somewhat unstable.
Dimensions & tons: 169ft 6in, 138ft 11¼in x 47ft 4in x 20ft 3in. 1,656 64/94 bm. Men: 590.
Guns: LD 28 x 32pdrs; UD 28 x 18pdrs; QD 14 x 9pdrs; Fc 4 x 9pdrs.

BELLONA Class. (SGN104) Thomas Slade design approved 31.1.1758. Five ships were built to this draught, but Superb was wrecked in 1783 and Dragon and Kent were sold in 1784.
Dimensions & tons: 168ft 0in, 138ft 0in (?or 137ft 115/8in) x 46ft 9in x 19ft 9in. 1,60389/94 bm.
Guns: 550. Guns: (original) LD 28 x 32pdrs; UD 28 x 18pdrs; QD 14 x 9pdrs; Fc 4 x 9pdrs. By 1807 (Bellona by 1812) each had QD 6 x 12pdrs + 8 x 32pdr carronades, Fc 2 x 12pdrs + 2 x 32pdr carronades.
(BWAS 1793-1817, 2nd ed.)

This suggests to me that maybe Ganges would be a slightly faster maneuver deck, if we have something between D and B. I would assume that Ganges got the same "fleetwide carronade upgrade" as the older design. I question the assertion of upgrading the 9's to 12's though.

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Thanks again DB. That seems to point to the Bellona stats then. as far as the deck goes for maneuver deck I will probably stick with D as I already have a spare. I will, nevertheless, give some thought to a special ability card for her.
Rob.

[Capn Duff]

Do you have a Ganges hull Rob?

[Diamondback]

Do you have a Ganges hull Rob?

Henry Turner has one in his catalog.

[Capn Duff]

Hi DB, yes I have the model, just cant remember if we got one with the ks was all.

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Do you have a Ganges hull Rob?

Yes thanks Chris I have one of those.

Rob.

[Diamondback]

Hi DB, yes I have the model, just cant remember if we got one with the ks was all.

If you mean Henry's KS, yes--I got the entire pre-1816 class along with all the Canadas. Need to find somewhere to order the rest of the Intrepids and a buncha Nepomucenos, too...