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Comte de Brueys
05-21-2012, 04:15
...about Sails of Glory?

The Royal Hajj
05-21-2012, 05:05
Nothing new :(

Attila57
05-22-2012, 08:34
I know Andrea is working on it but I think SOG will not arrive before the end of this year

Berthier
05-23-2012, 03:24
Have to agree with you Attilio, lot of other projects they have under way and SOG doesn't appear (from the outside looking in) to be the highest priority.

Bluedevil
05-23-2012, 08:18
I was tired of waiting:p so I started up a late medieval army entirely made of Perry miniatures..That should keep me busy till the end of the year I suppose:rolleyes:

Coog
05-23-2012, 13:15
I just wish more information would be released on the range of the size of ships that the game will cover. It appears SOLs and frigates will be in the game but what about the smaller ships?

Bligh
05-28-2012, 12:22
I was tired of waiting:p so I started up a late medieval army entirely made of Perry miniatures..That should keep me busy till the end of the year I suppose:rolleyes:

I have a Yorkist Army which I finished just before getting hooked on WoW. I have also an all white Lancastrian Army with about one and a half households finished, before I started painting planes two years ago. Also a small Burgundian army, al of which are a mixture of Perry, Front Rank and Foundry.
Rob.

Capt P
06-06-2012, 17:20
Since they are putting out the planes that may hold up the ships. I hope not but that may be what is happening.

Coog
06-06-2012, 18:00
I may be wrong but it seems Ares holds back on information about releases more than Nexus did. They may not want to get expectations up on releases, like we had in the past with Nexus, only to have to wait a year or more before they actually come out.

David Manley
06-07-2012, 00:36
probably a good thing. They have posted quite a bit on release dates for WGF and so far managed to miss just about all of them, plus availability outside the US is rather poor. So keeping quiet on SOG is probably a good thing. if I was them I'd keep schtumm until I was sure I could deliver. Expectations raised and then dashed will harm their reputation - for example there seems to be quite a bit of bad feeling being generated over the non-availability of the new bombers in Europe.

Capt P
07-08-2012, 12:37
Well planes getting pushed back a bit so ship having the same issue. Again patients.

Bligh
07-08-2012, 12:45
At least it will give our finances time to recover after having to buy all these new planes.
Bligh.

Horatio
02-06-2013, 12:12
Iv'e been a member for over two years now, I didn't think I would still be waiting to get the game after all this time.

The Royal Hajj
02-06-2013, 13:36
Yes, it's been a while :( From what I understand, cash flow is the main hold up now. With Wings and War of the Ring going so well for them, they are having to sink just about all their available funds into those two games to keep them going. That, and the change in scale set them back as well. As much as I'd love for this game to be out already, I'm happy to wait until they can put out a nicely finished product.

And actually, you've been a member here for a few days more then 13 months ;)

Horatio
02-06-2013, 16:06
Sorry my mistake, I forgot that in the U.S. 12-01-2011 is 1 December 2011, in the UK it is 12 January 2011.:confused:
We speak the same language "almost":D
Don

7eat51
02-09-2013, 22:26
Sorry my mistake, I forgot that in the U.S. 12-01-2011 is 1 December 2011, in the UK it is 12 January 2011.:confused:
We speak the same language "almost":D
Don

"We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language."
Oscar Wilde, The Canterville Ghost, 1882

"England and America are two countries separated by a common language."
Attributed to George Bernard Shaw

Berthier
02-09-2013, 23:33
Sorry my mistake, I forgot that in the U.S. 12-01-2011 is 1 December 2011, in the UK it is 12 January 2011.:confused:
We speak the same language "almost":D
Don

Yes it's the 12th Jan in Australia too. Not sure if anyone apart from the US uses that system of M/D/YR rather than (the more logical) D/M/YR

Diamondback
02-10-2013, 00:24
Actually, Y/M/D is more mathematically intuitive...

Volunteer
02-10-2013, 03:38
We just do it to be different (or maybe defiant), like calling the American Turkey Vulture a Buzzard.

Andy Blozinski
02-10-2013, 08:45
"We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language."
Oscar Wilde, The Canterville Ghost, 1882

"England and America are two countries separated by a common language."
Attributed to George Bernard Shaw

They drive on the wrong side of the road too.

David Manley
02-10-2013, 12:26
No, we drive on the correct side of the road :)

The Royal Hajj
02-10-2013, 13:32
No, we drive on the correct side of the road :)

Not according to the rest of the world ;)

1881

Red = Dives on right side of road
Blue = Drives on left side of road

David Manley
02-10-2013, 14:40
Just because more people do it one way doesn't make it "correct" :)

Andy Blozinski
02-10-2013, 16:11
Just because more people do it one way doesn't make it "correct" :)

Oh...that's fine talk coming from one of those metric system countries.

7eat51
02-10-2013, 18:08
[QUOTE=The Royal Hajj;5698]Not according to the rest of the world ;)

Wow. You truly have some amazing retorts.

7eat51
02-10-2013, 18:10
Actually, Y/M/D is more mathematically intuitive...

Personally, I like the way we used when I was in the military, e.g. 10 Feb 13.

The Royal Hajj
02-10-2013, 18:39
Personally, I like the way we used when I was in the military, e.g. 10 Feb 13.

That's the way I personally write it all the time.



Wow. You truly have some amazing retorts.

The Gooblefu is strong within me!


Just because more people do it one way doesn't make it "correct" :)

Lets see, you guys drive on the left, we drive on the right... yep, we are right :D

Diamondback
02-10-2013, 19:07
Both of you, just remember...

Only left-handers like, oh... ME!... get the luxury of truthfully claiming to be in our right minds.

:D LOL

Andy Blozinski
02-10-2013, 21:27
We should make a list of important things that separate the Yankee Doodle Dandys from the Limeys.
1. Driving on the wrong side of the road
2. Use of that new fangled metric system, or not
3. Putting the month and day backwards
4. Adding useless "u"s into words..like armor. It's SO French to spell it armour. You guys have been living too close to them for too long. You are supposed to be slinging cannonballs through their hulls, not letting them mess up your spelling.
5. A bonnet is something a lady wears, not what's keeping the rain off your car engine.

Berthier
02-11-2013, 01:02
Careful...we do things similarly to the "limeys" but we're definitely NOT them. Armour it is, colour and the metric system and we're about as far from France as you can conceivably get. The US is using gallons and yards and other measurement systems that are all British in origin so you may be more limey than them since they've at least moved on to a more logical system :)

Oh and Ozzies adopted the metric system before the Brits

Volunteer
02-11-2013, 05:21
I learned to drive on the left side of the road while living in Jamaica as a kid in 1966-69 (They drive on the right side now I believe). The two times I have been in England since, It came right back to me and felt natural. Of course my side seat driver of a wife came close to apoplexy.

As for the English language, we are destroying it in this country. Take the word regardless for instance. People have used the double negative non-word irregardless incorrectly for so long it's now in our dictionaries. And they both have the same meaning. I can't stand it.

David Manley
02-11-2013, 06:09
I'm a regular visitor to North America and I have no problems switching from the correct side of the road to the right side.

Driving on the Continent however scares the bejeesus out of me!

(and a friend here has reminded me that for super driving fun try the Lebanon where they drive on BOTH sides of the road, despite what the "law" may say!)

The Royal Hajj
02-11-2013, 12:32
I drove on the wrong side of the road for 4.5 years while in Japan, it's actually not so bad.


(and a friend here has reminded me that for super driving fun try the Lebanon where they drive on BOTH sides of the road, despite what the "law" may say!)

Hehe, reminds me of driving in Kabul Afghanistan, were roundabouts go in four directions and the only "law" is biggest vehicle has the right of way... or who ever has the most yaks in their herd!

Jack Aubrey
02-12-2013, 01:04
...drive in the middle, ad you can decide at the time, which way to go....:cool:

Comte de Brueys
02-19-2013, 01:15
We don't have that problem at sea. :cool:

Bligh
02-19-2013, 02:40
Napoleon was to blame for most of this. He started the metric system and driving on the wrong side of the road.
As for not having this trouble at sea. Try explaining port and starboard, little green and red lights and the significance of Buoys to my Good Lady.:eek:
Bligh.

Jack Aubrey
02-19-2013, 03:09
....:cool: always drive on the bright side of life....:cool:

Berthier
02-19-2013, 05:16
Napoleon was to blame for most of this. He started the metric system and driving on the wrong side of the road.
Bligh.

No not so, he may have done many things but not the metric system!

From wikipedia
Talleyrand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord), Constituent Assembly representative of the clergy, revolutionary leader and former Bishop of Autun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Autun), at the prompting of the mathematician Condorcet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet), approached the British and the Americans in early 1790 with proposals of a joint effort to define a common standard of length based on the length of a pendulum. The United Kingdom, represented by John Riggs Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riggs_Miller) and the United States represented by Thomas Jefferson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson) agreed in principal to the proposal, but the choice of latitude for the pendulum proved to be a sticking point: Jefferson opting for 38°N, Talleyrand for 45°N and Riggs-Miller for London's latitude. On 8 May 1790 Talleyrand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talleyrand)'s proposal in the Constituent Assembly that the new measure be defined at 45°N "or whatever latitude might be preferred"[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-LoisEtDecret-37) won the support of all parties concerned.[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-Larousse-29) On 13 July 1790, Jefferson presented a document Plan for Establishing Uniformity in the Coinage, Weights, and Measures of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_for_Establishing_Uniformity_in_the_Coinage,_Weights,_and_Measures_of_the_United_States) to the U.S. Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) in which, like Wilkins, he advocated a decimal system in which units that used traditional names such as inches, feet, roods were related to each by the powers of ten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponentiation#Powers_of_ten). Again, like Wilkins, he proposed a system of weights based around the weight of a cubic unit of water, but unlike Wilkins, he proposed a "rod pendulum" rather than a "bob pendulum".[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-38) Riggs-Miller promoted Tallyrand's proposal in the British House of Commons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Commons_of_Great_Britain).

The French Constituent Assembly set up a commission to prepare the details of their proposal. The chairman of the commission, Borda, inventor of the repeating circle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeating_circle), preferred the meridional definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre#Meridional_definition) for the unit of length to one based on the pendulum and it was his proposal that was accepted by the Constituent Assembly on 30 March 1791.[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-LoisEtDecret-37) Meanwhile Jefferson's report was considered but not adopted by the U.S. Congress and Riggs-Miller lost his UK Parliamentary seat in the election of 1790 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_general_election,_1790).[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-39) When the French later overthrew their monarchy Britain withdrew her support.[35]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-40)In France, the metric system of measure was first given a legal basis in 1795 by the French Revolutionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution) government. Article 5 of the law of 18 Germinal, Year III (7 April 1795) defined five units of measure. The units and their preliminary values were:[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_metric_system#cite_note-18germ_3-47)



The metre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre), for length – defined as being one ten millionth of the distance between the North Pole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pole) and the Equator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equator) through Paris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris)
The are (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hectare) (100 m2) for area [of land]
The stère (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A8re) (1 m3) for volume of firewood
The litre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litre) (1 dm3) for volumes of liquid
The gram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram), for mass – defined as being the mass of one cubic centimetre of water



So, not Napoleon at all (it pre-dates his rise) and if the French hadn't had a little dose of regicide, the UK may have adopted the metric system then as well ..except they would have insisted on latitude being based on London and probably started another war! Even more of interest though is that the original suggestion of the metric system goes way back to 1586

Most writers credit the Flemish mathematician Simon Stevin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Stevin) with introducing the (ed.concept of )decimal system into general use in Europe 1586

The Royal Hajj
02-19-2013, 05:31
Whoever came up with it should have forced it on the whole world... it's a vastly superior system. I use it as much as I can, but always have to revert back to the decimal/fraction system when dealing with others :(

David Manley
02-19-2013, 05:58
We in the RN are just getting out of the imperial measures game as far as ships are concerned, with the impending returement of the Type 42s. It has been interesting seeing young engineers coming out of training going in to the project team looking after the last of these old destroyers and having to revert to inches, feet and tons. Whilst the imperial system is the system I grew up with initially, I was fortunate enough to move to metric so I'm conversant with both - the latter is a far more logical system (that said I'm still writing some of my wargames rules in inches!)

Bligh
02-19-2013, 07:14
Guess my Maths teacher must have been wrong then.
Bligh.

Capt P
02-21-2013, 17:28
I have a hard enough time with less than inches yet alone metric. 5 years in Japan (Okinawa) and I found it easy to adjust driving on the other side. Did make a few errors when I got back to the States though. I wondered why a 2 1/2 was on the wrong side of the road one time in Mass then realized I was on the wrong side.

Bligh
02-22-2013, 01:43
I have a hard enough time with less than inches yet alone metric. 5 years in Japan (Okinawa) and I found it easy to adjust driving on the other side. Did make a few errors when I got back to the States though. I wondered why a 2 1/2 was on the wrong side of the road one time in Mass then realized I was on the wrong side.

Just wait until you start dealing with Knots, fathoms and leagues then Bob.:eek:
Bligh.

RedLeif
02-22-2013, 02:31
And if you read the patrick o'brian (jack aubrey) series of books you might want to know how much a 'stone' weighs.
btw 1 stone = 14 pounds/6.35 Kg

Volunteer
02-22-2013, 09:21
I had to look that one up too when reading O'Brien. Aubrey is a heavy fellow.

RedLeif
02-22-2013, 11:57
I think you're right. As I recall he tended to weigh between 15 adn 18 stone - so between 210 and 250 pounds which, means Hh would have been quite heavy for that time period. The average US soldier in WWII weighed in at about 150 pounds and marines were about 5'7" (~1.7m), and european males of the 1800's were on average even a little shorter (about 5'4"/ 1.6m) and lighter if my sources on the topic are credible. I don't recall his height.