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Bligh
12-03-2015, 07:33
I am processing sets of ships cards for my solo scenarios and wondered if they would be of interest to anyone else.
I will post the first page here and add to them as I complete each sheet.





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They actually print out at 60x 30 mm.
Rob.

Bligh
12-03-2015, 08:50
Now to the French.



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Rob.

Bligh
12-03-2015, 10:02
The Spanish.


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Bligh
12-03-2015, 10:07
And finally the good old US of A.




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I will add more ships to these sets as they come out if you show any interest.
Rob.

Union Jack
12-03-2015, 13:50
Proserpine or Prosperine Rob?

Bligh
12-03-2015, 14:00
Proserpine according to the box Neil.
Thanks. But don't expect a replacement any time soon. I will change it for the Files.
Rob.

Bligh
12-03-2015, 14:14
How's that Neil.
Rob..

Union Jack
12-03-2015, 16:35
Fine and dandy Rob.

Dobbs
12-03-2015, 18:48
A note about the American flag; I believe the one you chose was a reproduction of the Fort McHenry flag. I don't think the Americans used 15 stripes outside of that flag. I could be wrong....

Also, doesn't the St Andrews cross sort of establish a date for the British?

Coog
12-03-2015, 20:22
A note about the American flag; I believe the one you chose was a reproduction of the Fort McHenry flag. I don't think the Americans used 15 stripes outside of that flag. I could be wrong....

Also, doesn't the St Andrews cross sort of establish a date for the British?

The United States Congress' Flag Act of 1794 added two stars and stripes when Vermont and Kentucky were added as states to the original thirteen. The Flag Act of 1818 changed the flag back to 13 stripes for the original thirteen colonies while a new star would be added for each new state.

The flag of 15 stars and stripes would be appropriate for the ships of the permanent standing United States Navy created by the Naval Act of 1794 and served through the War of 1812 and Second Barbary War, but not for the Continental Navy, which was disbanded after the American War of Independence.

Also the 1781 sloop was named Atalanta instead of Atlanta.

Gunner
12-03-2015, 20:55
Also the 1781 sloop was named Atalanta instead of Atlanta.

Hi Bob

I heard of the HMS Atalanta and a US merchantman, but not a US Sloop by that name. Would you please show me where I could find that information? Thanks.:beer:

David Manley
12-03-2015, 21:21
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=14620

Atalanta was never a "USS"

Gunner
12-03-2015, 21:44
Thanks Dave, I should have known better than to question Coog.:beer:

PS So it would seem it was an American ship for only two months.
Surprised that Ares even used that name.

Coog
12-03-2015, 22:01
Hi Bob

I heard of the HMS Atalanta and a US merchantman, but not a US Sloop by that name. Would you please show me where I could find that information? Thanks.:beer:

Atalanta is the alternate ship for the Thorn model. Ares refers to her as USS Atalanta on their cards and elsewhere. But I agree with David, like Thorn, she was actually just called Atalanta. I don't believe the USS designation was used until sometime after the before mentioned Naval Act of 1794.

United States ships also used designations such as USF for United States Frigate. It wasn't until 1907 when President Theodore Roosevelt made USS the only official designation in his Executive Order 549.

"In order that there shall be uniformity in the matter of designating naval vessels, it is hereby directed that the official designation of vessels of war, and other vessels of the Navy of the United States, shall be the name of such vessel, preceded by the words, United States Ship, or the letters U.S.S., and by no other words or letters."

Bligh
12-04-2015, 01:41
A note about the American flag; I believe the one you chose was a reproduction of the Fort McHenry flag. I don't think the Americans used 15 stripes outside of that flag. I could be wrong....

Also, doesn't the St Andrews cross sort of establish a date for the British?

Hi Dobbs.
I had a long think about both those things before I decided to produce the cards.
From research on a couple of American sites the flag was stated to run up to 1816, so it fits with my requirements.
Also for the British flag. I felt that the most obvious one was the current well known 1801 flag.
I had no intention of reproducing all those flags twice. Likewise the use of the Bourbon flag.
However, anyone may feel free to use and alter whatever flags they like.
Rob.

David Manley
12-04-2015, 11:35
Atalanta is the alternate ship for the Thorn model. Ares refers to her as USS Atalanta on their cards and elsewhere. But I agree with David, like Thorn, she was actually just called Atalanta. I don't believe the USS designation was used until sometime after the before mentioned Naval Act of 1794.

More than that, she was never officially brought into US naval service, being captured and then recaptured by the RN a few weeks later.

Capn Duff
12-04-2015, 11:36
Ill take a set each of those please Rob, could you do a couple of exras for my repaints please if I send you the names ?

Bligh
12-04-2015, 11:40
For you Chris, how could I refuse.
Rob.

Capn Duff
12-05-2015, 03:11
Thanks Rob

French ships

America
Temeraire
Timoleon

RN

HMS Aboukir
HMS Audacious
HMS Amazon
HMS Ambuscade
HMS Berwick
HMS Greyhound
HMS Renown
HMS Resolution
HMS Shannon

Diamondback
12-05-2015, 11:51
Proserpine according to the box Neil.
Thanks. But don't expect a replacement any time soon. I will change it for the Files.
Rob.
Proserpine according to HISTORY. Is "Prosperine" even a word in ANY language?

Dobbs
12-05-2015, 13:07
Hi Dobbs.
I had a long think about both those things before I decided to produce the cards.
From research on a couple of American sites the flag was stated to run up to 1816, so it fits with my requirements.
Also for the British flag. I felt that the most obvious one was the current well known 1801 flag.
I had no intention of reproducing all those flags twice. Likewise the use of the Bourbon flag.
However, anyone may feel free to use and alter whatever flags they like.
Rob.

Hi Rob, thanks for setting me straight on the flags. As to the Bourbon flag, while I appreciate the historical significance, who wants a ship with a white flag?

Gunner
12-05-2015, 14:16
Hi Rob, thanks for setting me straight on the flags. As to the Bourbon flag, while I appreciate the historical significance, who wants a ship with a white flag?

The French, to be sure.

Bligh
12-06-2015, 01:30
Proserpine according to HISTORY. Is "Prosperine" even a word in ANY language?

Probably why I got it wrong DB. It's the Classical Education you know.
I have corrected it to the Ares spelling because the names are intended for the ships they have plus any conversions I have made.If anyone would prefer the alternative spelling please let me know and I will add it to the next set.
Rob.

Diamondback
12-06-2015, 11:54
Trust me, I rode Roberto & Co. like a rented mule about spelling, and they got Proserpine right at least on their website.

The real sticking point was Sybille/Sibylle... the I and Y traded places when the flags switched historically, an I'm not sure which side of the 50/50 coin-toss the miniatures landed on.

Bligh
12-06-2015, 12:24
That's why I bit the bullet and went with their spelling DB, because for all you knowledgeable chaps who know the correct spelling and try so hard to put it right, I would have got a heck of a lot more flack from the ones who don't know and would have said that Ares and the cards don't spell it that way. I'd far sooner justify my reasons to you bright chaps than try and talk round a lot of Barrack room lawyers.:clap:
Rob.

Diamondback
12-06-2015, 13:14
Handle 'em the way I did, Rob: "Got a problem with it, THERE'S THE DOOR." The version you have posted right now is the correct one.

And for all the Turd-Sucking Munchkins out there, let me make things perfectly clear: "There is no such mother-@#%@#ing thing as a mother-$#^$#%#$%ing 'Prosperine'! Good God, take a $#%#%%@#ing History class and more importantly LEARN HOW TO %^$@^#$%#@ing READ AND SPELL!" (best delivered if you imagine my hands around somebody's throat or me bodily slamming them against the nearest wall every other syllable)

David Manley
12-06-2015, 13:22
For anyone interested in the source of the name.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proserpina

David Manley
12-06-2015, 13:24
Also interesting to note that there have been six Proserpines in the Royal Navy as well as (more recently) a stone frigate

Union Jack
12-06-2015, 16:44
NSS. :takecover:

When I mentioned this it was due to the fact that the spelling that Rob initially used was Prosperine not Proserpine. So if your continuing rant is in my direction, then think again. I only pointed it out so Rob could correct the spelling before he published them in the file section.

So how about a think before opening and closing said hands around said throat of someone trying to help someone else out.

Or if you fancy, feather pillows at dawn behind the bike sheds; name your second.

And as my good old Dad told me, sticks and stones son, sticks and stones.




Proserpine according to HISTORY. Is "Prosperine" even a word in ANY language?

Diamondback
12-06-2015, 18:53
Neil, for the record, if I'm ever in a situation where I need to Call Someone Out you can count on me to do it By Name--nothing personal at you intended, I'm just trying to ensure the point is driven home for the entire community so we can drive a stake through that little myth's heart Once and For All. :)

I for one would like to *hope* that we don't harbor any TSMs in our midst... after all no matter how much Spreadsheet Gaming you do beforehand it's still a matter of Skill and Luck once the figures hit the table.

:drinks:

Gunner
12-06-2015, 19:03
And let no one forget, this is just a game, for fun and enjoyment between friends. :drinks:

David Manley
12-06-2015, 21:41
NSS?

TSM?

Gunner
12-06-2015, 22:00
Got the NSS but what is TSM?

Diamondback
12-06-2015, 22:05
NSS is I'm guessing No Such Ship.

TSM = Turd-Sucking Munchkin, the kind of rules-lawyering powergamer who makes you want to stick their head in the crapper and hit Flush... or worse.

Gunner
12-06-2015, 22:15
Looks like we're still killing the Kings English.:drinks:

Bligh
12-07-2015, 01:56
Looks like we're still killing the Kings English.:drinks:

:shock::minis:I'm starting to regret that I ever published this set of cards.:dazed::cry::pistole::cannonboom::cannon::swordright::swordleft::shootright::shootleft::erk:
Rob.:help:

Diamondback
12-07-2015, 03:27
Rob. let me make this perfectly clear: You did good, amigo. :)

David Manley
12-07-2015, 06:06
:shock::minis:I'm starting to regret that I ever published this set of cards.:dazed::cry::pistole::cannonboom::cannon::swordright::swordleft::shootright::shootleft::erk:
Rob.:help:

Never let a good deed go unpunished :happy:

David Manley
12-07-2015, 06:06
:shock::minis:I'm starting to regret that I ever published this set of cards.:dazed::cry::pistole::cannonboom::cannon::swordright::swordleft::shootright::shootleft::erk:
Rob.:help:

Never let a good deed go unpunished :happy:

Union Jack
12-07-2015, 06:08
NSS: No S**t Sherlock

Capn Duff
12-07-2015, 08:48
I dare not say now I always called it Prosperine, Strange what the brain tells you no matter how it spelt.
DB i will make sure I call it proper like from now on , honest guv

Herkybird
12-07-2015, 12:15
Take command Sir! - Decide the spelling you want and go with it. Your good work here should be applauded :clap:

3 cheers for Mr Bligh! :hatsoff:

David Manley
12-07-2015, 12:47
Is "Prosperine" even a word in ANY language?

Yes, in "American" - its a township in Missouri :happy:

Bligh
12-07-2015, 12:50
Did give me an idea for a name for one of my Merchant ships. I may call her the "LadyJane Morris" in memory of this thread.
Rob.:wink:

Diamondback
12-07-2015, 12:55
@Chris, we all have a few we struggle with--my administrative-assistant has dyslexia and there are a few things that permanently elude her, like for some reason her brain is hardwired to spell "Sergeant" with two A's instead of two E's.

:)

Bligh
12-07-2015, 13:51
That's very interesting DB.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the shortened version being Sarge.
Rob.

Union Jack
12-07-2015, 15:00
Not in the British Army Rob!

Bligh
12-07-2015, 15:28
Not in the British Army Rob!
I believe that DB's administrative-assistant may be American Neil, although this is not a given.:happy:
Rob.

Gunner
12-07-2015, 15:47
Yes, in "American" - its a township in Missouri :happy:

Prosperine, MO is so big (ha, ha), that it was not included in the last census.:beer:

David Manley
12-07-2015, 16:30
Inhabitants one, an old fart wargamer with a SGN frigate model in his collection, the old guy continually wonders how they spelt the name of the ship wrong :happy:

Gunner
12-07-2015, 16:41
Ha, ha,ha. Love your short story answers Dave. :beer:

Nightmoss
12-07-2015, 17:30
This shift in conversation is rather amusing. Reminds me of the "discussion" I had with someone at a recent convention I attended. How do you spell harbor, color, defense, maneuver, etc., etc. and so fourth (yes, I know it's forth). :wink:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences

7eat51
12-07-2015, 22:02
I'm currently bi-lingual: American-English and Chicagoese. Sue and I are going to learn British-English before our visit to the U.K.

Here is an enjoyable video (https://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10) on the difference between U.K., Great Britain, and England.

Gunner
12-07-2015, 22:40
Very enjoyable, watched both ( U.K., Great Britain, England and the U.S.) even though it gave me a headache trying to keep up with his speed talking (guess I've been away from Chicago too long).
Thanks Eric :beer:

7eat51
12-07-2015, 22:43
Very enjoyable, even though it gave me a headache trying to keep up with his speed talking.
Thanks Eric :beer:

You've been away from home too long. :wink:

Gunner
12-07-2015, 22:51
You've been away from home too long. :wink:

Ha, ha. You posted this the same time that I edited mine. :drinks:

7eat51
12-07-2015, 22:57
Ha, ha. You posted this the same time that I edited mine. :drinks:

Great minds .... :drinks:

Diamondback
12-11-2015, 15:56
I believe that DB's administrative-assistant may be American Neil, although this is not a given.:happy:
Rob.
Worse, she's Californian--specifically San Fransickan. LOL

Bligh
06-10-2016, 10:34
I have just added the following name cards to my album at Captain Duff's request.




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Capn Duff
06-14-2016, 15:26
Thanks Rob,

Pluton is done and dusted replacing The Spanish Neptuno.
Scipion , HMS Implacable now just needs rigging, HMS BelleIsle needs spars and rigging, HMS Scipion needs anther Temeraire model, if I can get another spare may make the French ship Pluton also.... When will it end :)

Bligh
06-14-2016, 16:01
I did not manage to post the cards on yesterday Chris, but we are coming down to Bristol on Friday, so I will drop them through your letter box on the way to Eileen's Neice's.
As to when will it end. When the supply of ships finally dries up.
I was looking for three to cut up for sinking hulls today and could not get one of each rate at any store I looked at. Some had all three, but not at reasonable prices.
Rob.

Capn Duff
06-15-2016, 01:26
Dont forget Northumbria games and Battleground which were at Expo, plus I believe Spirit games also has some models. Also look on Amazon uk, I got a 74 for around 13

Bligh
06-15-2016, 01:34
I had a look at Amazon Chris, and they seem to be farming out a lot of their products. I did not want to cop for three lots of postage, many of which were around 4. However, Northumbria seems a good bet. Can't imagine why they fell off my Radar.
Thanks for the tip off.
Rob.

Herkybird
06-15-2016, 11:47
I had a word with the proprietor of Northumbria games at Durham last weekend...
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And a close up of his wares...
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My favourite shop for getting Sails models!

Bligh
01-11-2017, 12:33
Here are the updated Spanish Fleet. Rest to follow.



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Rob.

Bligh
01-12-2017, 05:55
The British Fleet plus any strays I have done for other people.






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Bligh
01-13-2017, 03:11
Now finally The French Fleet.




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Rob.

Bligh
02-11-2017, 13:39
Here are a few additions for Cpt. Duff.



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Rob.

Diamondback
02-12-2017, 16:32
Which reminds me, someday I have to get the entire Potential Reprint List posted... just the numbers on SGN102, 104 and 105 are positively jaw-dropping.