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Dobbs
08-27-2015, 19:26
Does it bother anyone else that all of the British ship names include HMS? They're British! Of course they're HMS! What are the French, or Dutch, or Russian initials?

Bligh
08-28-2015, 02:34
As far as I know the Dutch Navy was KM. (Koninklijke Marine)
After the Revolution the French ships did not have any Prefix.
Rob.

TexaS
08-28-2015, 05:29
There are many navies that use that form. Sweden - Hans or Hennes Majestäts Skepp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Ship

See "See also" for more.

csadn
08-28-2015, 14:59
After the Revolution the French ships did not have any Prefix.


Of course they did -- they eventually became "HMS".... >;)

csadn
08-28-2015, 14:59
After the Revolution the French ships did not have any Prefix.


Of course they did -- they eventually became "HMS".... >;)

Dobbs
09-03-2015, 18:14
Isn't it kind of redundant to have the ships listed with HMS if they have a British naval flag? The American sloops don't have USS before their names, and did anyone else have a Constitution?

And another thing, the debate of whether a ship is the "Surprise", or just "Surprise". Our boat is "Grace", not the "Grace". It seems that nowadays we drop the "the", but that was that always so?

When I asked the French folks at "L'Hermione", they just got confused, but thought that not all French ships started with "the"...

Naharaht
09-03-2015, 20:15
The prefix HMS enables someone to distinguish between Royal Navy ships and merchant ships, particularly East India Company ships. At sea they may be identified by their flag but in documents the prefix is necessary unless you want to look through long lists of ship names.

BSG_Fan
09-04-2015, 02:26
Isn't it kind of redundant to have the ships listed with HMS if they have a British naval flag? The American sloops don't have USS before their names, and did anyone else have a Constitution?

The Atalanta does have a USS prefix; the Thorn doesn't because it is a privateer. Like it or not, Ares has been fairly consistent.