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Popsical
01-27-2015, 15:10
Does anyone have a set of these floating around that they would part with?
Pretty please...

7eat51
01-29-2015, 05:44
Hi Steve. I believe I do. I will check this morning and let you know.

TexaS
01-29-2015, 06:14
Are they scanned anywhere?
I'd be interested in buying a set too.

7eat51
01-29-2015, 06:42
Due to copyright and the desire to support Ares, we don't allow uploading scans of decks. If you're ever bored or unable to sleep, you can spend an hour or two reading through threads about card decks or copyright issues on the Aerodrome. :wink:

I just checked BGG. They were available there before, but I do not see them anymore.

One suggestion would be to look at the rules, and then either make a set based on the rules or use a regular playing card deck with a sheet explaining the substitutes.

Another option is to custom make a deck with one's own captain/crew abilities.

Hobbes
01-29-2015, 07:10
You can find the text of the cards and the rules here: http://www.aresgames.eu/11275

TexaS
01-29-2015, 07:52
Except that there's a symbol explained that you can't connect to which card should have it.

fredmiracle
01-29-2015, 09:12
Except that there's a symbol explained that you can't connect to which card should have it.

There is no problem--the symbol merely indicates if it's a captain ability or a crew ability. This can easily be determined by whether it falls on the Captain's Abilities or Crew Abilities page of the document.

David Manley
01-29-2015, 11:16
Due to copyright and the desire to support Ares, we don't allow uploading scans of decks. ......Then why do we allow scans of the ship mats?

7eat51
01-29-2015, 13:06
Good question.

I will kibitz with Keith about it. We have been discussing copyright issues the past couple of days. Ares is fine with the use of certain images or items when used in certain ways. I, still, am not always sure what constitutes a violation. I know providing scans of complete decks is problematic because we have had many discussions about it on the 'Drome.

Diamondback
01-29-2015, 13:36
Per Roberto at Ares a while back in personal correspondence, they do plan to have the deck available again later as part of a future product. I think they're already thinking "Rules & Accessories Pack"... but don't hold me to that, it's just a best guess based on what they've done with other mini lines and what I'd be doing in their position.

fredmiracle
01-29-2015, 13:41
Of course it is Ares' intellectual property, so ultimately if they say "cease and desist" then that is the right thing to do. But as a practical matter, for this kind of game, I think almost anything that is posted online can only help, rather than hurt, sales. At worst maybe they lose out on selling a few $5 packs of cards, at some unknown point in the future when they are available for purchase. But its more likely that it gets a few people incrementally more excited about the game (since it offers a few more play options as well as more friendly, open-platform feel), and Ares ends up selling more product and right away.

Ares must understand this at some level, or they wouldn't have posted the PDF...

Popsical
01-29-2015, 14:16
any luck eric?

7eat51
01-29-2015, 23:47
any luck eric?

PM sent.

I just looked on amazon, and someone has decks with an asking price of $96.

Diamondback
01-30-2015, 06:30
I just looked on amazon, and someone has decks with an asking price of $96.
*craps a brick*

TexaS
01-30-2015, 06:50
ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sails-of-Glory-Captian-And-Crew-Ability-Deck-Expansion-Cloud-Tokens-/271752150832)

$14 instead of $96 and you get counters too. Pity the shipping is $42.87 to Sweden.

Mahan
02-20-2015, 14:40
ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sails-of-Glory-Captian-And-Crew-Ability-Deck-Expansion-Cloud-Tokens-/271752150832)

$14 instead of $96 and you get counters too. Pity the shipping is $42.87 to Sweden.


Jag har en kortlek med kaptenskorten. Skulle kunna digitalisera den om du är intresserad.

TexaS
02-20-2015, 14:41
Väldigt gärna. :happy:

Då kan jag göra egna också!

Mahan
02-20-2015, 14:45
Väldigt gärna. :happy:

Då kan jag göra egna också!

OK, ska åka på sportlov i morgon och är borta en vecka. Men sen kan jag nog fixa det. Var bor du någonstans, jag bor i Sth.

TexaS
02-20-2015, 16:44
Linköping, men jag har familj i Stockholm så jag passerar ibland.

Mycenius
02-21-2015, 12:36
I wouldn't mind acquiring some of these myself if anyone has some spare or knows a source... :question:

Haggisblower
02-23-2015, 13:56
I have a set of cards brand new and unopened going spare if you still need a set, before I put them on ebay

TexaS
02-23-2015, 15:12
Otherwise I would like to buy them, if it's not too expensive. :moneygone:

(Och ja, jag är fortfarande intresserad av dina.)

Tiberius
02-23-2015, 15:20
I am looking for a set also. Anyone in America have one I could buy from them? Also do we know if Ares plans on printing more? I can confidently say I won't be paying 96 dollars for them. Should have bought them in December when I saw them for less than 10 dollars.

TexaS
02-23-2015, 15:41
I know that Ares have said that they intend to print them again in some form. Those are not exclusive kickstarter items as four ships were. When that will happen on the other hand...

Tiberius
02-23-2015, 16:08
I just hope they don't have to go anywhere near the Port of Los Angeles.

Gunner
02-23-2015, 16:21
I have one I'll let go for $10 plus actual shipping:beer:

TexaS
02-23-2015, 17:01
I'm not sure how much shipping is nowadays cross the pond. I seams to have increased by five times in the last ten years or so.

If that one in Scotland isn't very expensive I should probably get that one and leave yours to someone stateside. I just hope I wont be left without... :shock:

Gunner
02-23-2015, 17:24
I'm not sure how much shipping is nowadays cross the pond. I seams to have increased by five times in the last ten years or so.

If that one in Scotland isn't very expensive I should probably get that one and leave yours to someone stateside. I just hope I wont be left without... :shock:

PM your address and I'll check the cost with the Post Office tomorrow:beer:

7eat51
02-23-2015, 22:53
I hope Ares reprints these soon; as new folks enter the world of SoG, items like this will be desired, as evidenced on the secondary market.

Mycenius
02-24-2015, 02:00
I have a set of cards brand new and unopened going spare if you still need a set, before I put them on ebay

Yes Please - PM on the way.

Gunner
02-24-2015, 12:31
I'm not sure how much shipping is nowadays cross the pond. I seams to have increased by five times in the last ten years or so.

If that one in Scotland isn't very expensive I should probably get that one and leave yours to someone stateside. I just hope I wont be left without... :shock:

Jonas, shipping to Sweden is $6.55. Let me know if you want it by PM.:beer:

TexaS
02-24-2015, 14:14
PM sent! :beer:

Gunner
02-24-2015, 15:46
Jonas, your cards were shipped today, let me know when you receive them:beer:

TexaS
02-24-2015, 16:21
Thank you very much! :drinks:

I will! :salute:

Mycenius
02-28-2015, 03:56
I have a set of cards brand new and unopened going spare if you still need a set, before I put them on ebay


Yes Please - PM on the way.

Hi Kris - if you see this please drop me a PM - I'm thinking you may not have got my PM earlier in the week (I sent a second one today just in case)?

TexaS
03-02-2015, 14:11
Gunner, I got them today. Thanks! :happy:

Gunner
03-02-2015, 14:27
Gunner, I got them today. Thanks! :happy:

Great, six days from the Phoenix area to Sweden is pretty good.:beer:

TexaS
03-02-2015, 15:23
It is. Much better than it usually is, probably due to passing as a "letter". I have a package from the Anchorage passing two weeks about now.

Gunner
03-02-2015, 16:04
Just be thankful that the package doesn't have to be handled by ILWU workers.

kippryon
03-03-2015, 03:04
Is this referring to the Captain & Crew Ability cards that were available on BoardGameGeek as a promo item for around $10, about 2-3 months after Starter Set release...?

If so, I have several unopened decks.
[Not that I was hoarding for future gold, but was going to card sleeve one deck, attempt to laminate another, and keep one original - therefore got several extra in case I screwed 'em up, but...successfully done for all 3].
So...I have 3 extra decks *unopened*.

Just wondering.

TexaS
03-03-2015, 03:20
Yes, it is. I was even in the Kickstarter, but kept to a lower level due to the extreme shipping costs on Kickstarter, so I never got any.

I just wanted one deck to make it simpler to use the abilities for a few special captains. I think that four of each is plenty enough even for 20+ ships. There shouldn't be too many "famous" captains in every game.

Mycenius
03-03-2015, 03:21
Is this referring to the Captain & Crew Ability cards that were available on BoardGameGeek as a promo item for around $10, about 2-3 months after Starter Set release...?

Just wondering.

Yep - that's them Kipp, I believe...

Mycenius
03-03-2015, 03:22
I just wanted one deck to make it simpler to use the abilities for a few special captains. I think that four of each is plenty enough even for 20+ ships. There shouldn't be too many "famous" captains in every game.

Yep! Same thoughts here...

TexaS
03-03-2015, 12:35
And just as I mentioned my package from the Anchorage it arrived... Two packages, two days in a row. :happy: :minis:

Pity I have ten hour workdays including Saturday this week. :dazed::sleep:

7eat51
03-03-2015, 14:16
I think that four of each is plenty enough even for 20+ ships. There shouldn't be too many "famous" captains in every game.

My sentiments, exactly. That's why I passed mine on. I am checking to see if I have any extra ones left - if so, John (Mycenius), there is one with your name on it.

Mycenius
03-03-2015, 18:40
My sentiments, exactly. That's why I passed mine on. I am checking to see if I have any extra ones left - if so, John (Mycenius), there is one with your name on it.

You are a scholar and a gentleman Sir! :medal:

EDIT: P.S. I've been badgering anyone who so much as suggests they might have a spare deck :shock: :question: :wink: - I'm just that keen to get hold of them! :help: Can't seem to get hold of Kris (Haggisblower) who mentioned having a spare pack above...

Mycenius
03-04-2015, 01:24
And just as I mentioned my package from the Anchorage it arrived... Two packages, two days in a row. :happy: :minis:

Bounty, Indeed! :clap: :thumbsup: :happy:

Mark Kaiser
05-08-2015, 00:42
I too, have been searching for an abilities deck, without having to get a bank loan to get one. LOL, I have said this before, ARES would be wise to consumers request, suggestions, Etc._ or risk their hard work on SOL drawing water. A tactical events deck complete with a book explaining drawn cards, entitled "Captains Log", storms, squalls, uncharted islands, shark attacks, kraken, mutinous crew, you name it, could then be realized randomly for solo or multiplayer. Add some nice art work, and I think it would put a living world to the table.

TexaS
05-08-2015, 01:15
Welcome to the Anchorage, Mark! :salute:

Gunner
05-08-2015, 01:51
Glad to see that you jumped right in. Welcome:beer: from Arizona, Mark.

Mark Kaiser
05-08-2015, 15:33
Thank you for the warm reception gentlemen, it is an honor to be around such fine shipmates. I truly have waited a long time for an in depth naval game set in 17th to 19th centuries, probably the most adventurous in human history. I have the Master And Commander board game from Front Porch Classics, and while it is a very nice game, it lacks the scope to what SOG delivers, not to mention the fine ship models. I feel with a little imagination, and resource aids SOG could be legendary. If the sea is a vast unknown even today, imagine how it was two and three hundred years ago! Minus pollution, over fishing,etc., who knows what was swimming below the depths? Or what lurked in the steamy jungles? One thing is for sure...they knew how to party.

Gunner
05-08-2015, 17:38
I too, have been searching for an abilities deck, without having to get a bank loan to get one.

I have a new unopened one I can let go for $15 delivered. $18 shipped priority one.

Still not sold.

Mark Kaiser
05-09-2015, 00:58
Is this referring to the Captain & Crew Ability cards that were available on BoardGameGeek as a promo item for around $10, about 2-3 months after Starter Set release...?

If so, I have several unopened decks.
[Not that I was hoarding for future gold, but was going to card sleeve one deck, attempt to laminate another, and keep one original - therefore got several extra in case I screwed 'em up, but...successfully done for all 3].
So...I have 3 extra decks *unopened*.

Just wondering.

Ahoy kipp, do you still have a deck for sale? If so, how much? -Mark in Michigan

driordanwood
05-09-2015, 16:51
Evening, gents. I'm likewise looking to acquire one of these elusive decks so I thought I'd throw my bicorn into the ring. First dibs yielded to Mark of course, but if a second deck happens to surface I'd be much obliged for the offer. This is my first post by the way so consider it an informal greeting as well. Looking forward :)

Bligh
05-10-2015, 04:03
Welcome aboard Daniel.
'Fraid I can't help you with your quest, but do join us in the Wardroom for a few noggins and a jaw.
Bligh.

TroubleAtTMill
05-21-2015, 01:50
Evening, gents. I'm likewise looking to acquire one of these elusive decks so I thought I'd throw my bicorn into the ring. First dibs yielded to Mark of course, but if a second deck happens to surface I'd be much obliged for the offer. This is my first post by the way so consider it an informal greeting as well. Looking forward :)

FX: Forms orderly queue behind Mark and Daniel :D

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 01:59
FX: Forms orderly queue behind Mark and Daniel :D

I got mine thanks be to Gunner (Ed). His patience, trustworthiness, and prompt dispatching was second to none. So I believe David is next in the run for the coveted 'Ability deck', PS mine got immediately put in the hard protectors.

Berthier
05-21-2015, 02:25
Guys I've got two of those decks sealed and ready for sale. They are in Australia so that means postage alone would be $14.10A to USA! Sooo, if you are still interested email privately.

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 02:38
Guys I've got two of those decks sealed and ready for sale. They are in Australia so that means postage alone would be $14.10A to USA! Sooo, if you are still interested email privately.

Hey Daniel, kind of off topic but, how's the weather on your side of the world?, also did you ever get to see any of the "Road Warrior" stuff filmed? , Thanks, -Mark

Berthier
05-21-2015, 03:06
It's wet and cold (Melbourne) :sad: Road Warrior...you mean Mad Max? No didnt see any of that filmed but Australia is as big as the USA so you would have to be pretty fortunate to be close to those events :wink: They're filming the latest pirates movie up in Queensland (about 3000km from me) as you probably know with all the fuss over Depp's dogs!

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 03:29
It's wet and cold (Melbourne) :sad: Road Warrior...you mean Mad Max? No didnt see any of that filmed but Australia is as big as the USA so you would have to be pretty fortunate to be close to those events :wink: They're filming the latest pirates movie up in Queensland (about 3000km from me) as you probably know with all the fuss over Depp's dogs!

Yeah I know what you mean, our 9 months of winter is starting to finally break, but still in the 40's and 50's. Mad Max (old or new remake), or part 2 "The Road Warrior" here in the states. I just love the old versions Gabriel Byrne (Toe Cutter) is a wild man, loved him in "Moby Dick" too...'98 version with Patrick Stewart (best version of the tale, in my opinion), also the gyro captain (Bruce Spence) was the crazy old man on the dock. Some of my, hands down, favorite films come from over there, "Rogue", "Black Water", "The Reef", "Road Games" with Stacey Keach and Jamie Lee Curtis, just unparalleled film making with a (Hey Hollywood!, try this sometime!) good storyline, great actors, and great plots! No, I haven't heard anything on Depp or his dogs, or much of the new POTC for that matter!, I am looking forward to Ron Howards new film "In The Heart Of The Sea", the true story about the whaling ship "ESSEX" and her bout with Moby Dick.

Berthier
05-21-2015, 03:57
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-15/johnny-depps-dogs-leave-australia-on-flight-home-to-us/6474146

He's very lucky he hasn't been charged yet with bio-security breaches. Australia is rabies free and all pets are required to be quarantined on entry. There has been some very funny stuff on you tube mind you over this.

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 04:17
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-15/johnny-depps-dogs-leave-australia-on-flight-home-to-us/6474146

He's very lucky he hasn't been charged yet with bio-security breaches. Australia is rabies free and all pets are required to be quarantined on entry. There has been some very funny stuff on you tube mind you over this.
Wow!, I wonder why he (Depp) didn't follow protocol?, he had to have known prior, from sources, about the rules and could have had his pets checked out prior to filming, so he could keep them with him.

TexaS
05-21-2015, 05:21
When my mother brought her pets with her when she moved to the USA, she had them vaccinated and kept it up while there to make sure she could bring her Chausies back to Sweden. We don't have rabies either. I think quarantine is quite usual, if you don't have papers from vets.

7eat51
05-21-2015, 09:04
I wonder why he (Depp) didn't follow protocol?

I would be surprised if anyone from Hollywood would think they are under such rules. - same with folks from D.C.

I am reading an interesting book on leadership ethical failures, and the author contends that often such failures are not acts of the will, but flaws in cognition in which the leaders, for various reasons, believe they are exempt from ethical norms.

Naharaht
05-21-2015, 10:03
Welcome to the Anchorage, Daniel. It would be good if you went to the 'Welcome Aboard' category in the Forum and introduced yourself there.

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 11:52
I would be surprised if anyone from Hollywood would think they are under such rules. - same with folks from D.C.

I am reading an interesting book on leadership ethical failures, and the author contends that often such failures are not acts of the will, but flaws in cognition in which the leaders, for various reasons, believe they are exempt from ethical norms.
So true, Eric, So true.

Gunner
05-21-2015, 12:32
I would be surprised if anyone from Hollywood would think they are under such rules. - same with folks from D.C.

I am reading an interesting book on leadership ethical failures, and the author contends that often such failures are not acts of the will, but flaws in cognition in which the leaders, for various reasons, believe they are exempt from ethical norms.

Money and political strings talk. Probably always will.:sad:

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 12:42
Money and political strings talk. Probably always will.:sad:

Until the little man has had enough.

Popsical
05-21-2015, 12:51
Then the rich man pays other little men to squash the bolshy little men. History repeats itself. :sad:

Kentop
05-21-2015, 12:59
I too, have been searching for an abilities deck, without having to get a bank loan to get one. LOL, I have said this before, ARES would be wise to consumers request, suggestions, Etc._ or risk their hard work on SOL drawing water. A tactical events deck complete with a book explaining drawn cards, entitled "Captains Log", storms, squalls, uncharted islands, shark attacks, kraken, mutinous crew, you name it, could then be realized randomly for solo or multiplayer. Add some nice art work, and I think it would put a living world to the table.

That kind of thing used to be handled by "The General" and "S&T" magazines. A scenario in every issue. Another way to go would be the Pathfinder series for
Dungeons and Dragons". They are based on D&D 3.5 and contain dungeons, new characters, and new monsters in each release. I don't think SOG has enough people involved to make the printing of a book like that profitable.

BTW, Welcome Mark

7eat51
05-21-2015, 13:06
I agree with Kenneth. I think most non-ship expansions will be developed by fans due to cost, and to Ares being a small company with little resources for such development.

I have seen several folks produce some great work on the 'Drome for WoG. With the ability to print quality materials at places like Kinkos, and the ability of folks to do graphic design on home computers, I think we could populate the files sections with all sorts of alternative play aids.

Nightmoss
05-21-2015, 13:23
I agree with Kenneth. I think most non-ship expansions will be developed by fans due to cost, and to Ares being a small company with little resources for such development.

I have seen several folks produce some great work on the 'Drome for WoG. With the ability to print quality materials at places like Kinkos, and the ability of folks to do graphic design on home computers, I think we could populate the files sections with all sorts of alternative play aids.

This reminds me of the work Ryan (aka Mad Hatter) was doing on The Atlantic Campaign and his Master Campaign. Very professional looking and well done. Unfortunately, he's not been on in over a year.

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?1929-My-Version-of-Scenario-Book&highlight=atlantic+campaign

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?1938-The-Atlantic-Campaign-of-1806&highlight=atlantic+campaign

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 20:19
That kind of thing used to be handled by "The General" and "S&T" magazines. A scenario in every issue. Another way to go would be the Pathfinder series for
Dungeons and Dragons". They are based on D&D 3.5 and contain dungeons, new characters, and new monsters in each release. I don't think SOG has enough people involved to make the printing of a book like that profitable.

BTW, Welcome Mark
Thanks for the welcome Kenneth. I guess the fine line i'm trying to walk here is more based on SOG than D&D or Pathfinder. (To me nothing beats the old versions of the fantasy RPG's but that's anther story.) What I'm trying to get across is RANDOM EVENTS, historical in nature, with the tales from the taverns thrown in. Random enemy ships coming at you through fog banks, a reef in the middle of deep waters that could cause hull and possibly crew damage, a jack cleaning the ships side when suddenly he's swallowed by a great white, and he just happens to be an important crewman (effecting morale, or repairs), storms, squalls, rogue waves, mutineers, whales (both harmless and aggressive), an island that isn't plotted on your charts, giant sharks (historically) proven to be much larger back then, rations going bad, Captain and Crew field promotions and Demotions (affecting ship abilities), and yes Krakens, Sirens and the like, be they real or imagined, many paintings and drawings of the day claimed such things, we weren't there, so who can say? We are discovering giant squid today with an enormous potential for death and destruction, who's to say they weren't that large and took on ships back then? Possibly mistaking them for whales. Shore leave granted to crewman to 'mingle with the little brown native girls' if unengaged and near an island (raise morale, or cause trouble), Captains wife is expecting (change of course back to port), Two enemy Frigates and a SOL bearing down on you at a set distance. These are just some examples of exciting things that can happen to your ship on the draw of a card and referenced in a log booklet. Add nice artwork and a short 'one liner' on each card and I think it would turn the game from checkers into monopoly overnight. In a matter of speaking.

Kentop
05-21-2015, 20:38
Thanks for the welcome Kenneth. I guess the fine line i'm trying to walk here is more based on SOG than D&D or Pathfinder. (To me nothing beats the old versions of the fantasy RPG's but that's anther story.) What I'm trying to get across is RANDOM EVENTS, historical in nature, with the tales from the taverns thrown in. Random enemy ships coming at you through fog banks, a reef in the middle of deep waters that could cause hull and possibly crew damage, a jack cleaning the ships side when suddenly he's swallowed by a great white, and he just happens to be an important crewman (effecting morale, or repairs), storms, squalls, rogue waves, mutineers, whales (both harmless and aggressive), an island that isn't plotted on your charts, giant sharks (historically) proven to be much larger back then, rations going bad, Captain and Crew field promotions and Demotions (affecting ship abilities), and yes Krakens, Sirens and the like, be they real or imagined, many paintings and drawings of the day claimed such things, we weren't there, so who can say? We are discovering giant squid today with an enormous potential for death and destruction, who's to say they weren't that large and took on ships back then? Possibly mistaking them for whales. Shore leave granted to crewman to 'mingle with the little brown native girls' if unengaged and near an island (raise morale, or cause trouble), Captains wife is expecting (change of course back to port), Two enemy Frigates and a SOL bearing down on you at a set distance. These are just some examples of exciting things that can happen to your ship on the draw of a card and referenced in a log booklet. Add nice artwork and a short 'one liner' on each card and I think it would turn the game from checkers into monopoly overnight. In a matter of speaking.

Let's distill this for a moment. You are talking about the age old tradition of embellishing a true story with fantastic moments. Kind of like the bible. I can do the artwork if you write the story. I am no Frank Frazetta, but I get by.

fredmiracle
05-21-2015, 21:25
Via Keith Ares made some noise about adding more captain and crew depth. Unclear how far toward role play or character development they are imagining. Certainly not fantasy but I thought maybe they are trying to set things up for pirates. I'm intrigued, personally I'm interested in using some campaign framework to add age of sail flavor that falls outside the gunnery duel proper. But I think it's hard to bolt them onto the game.

Mark Kaiser
05-21-2015, 23:42
Let's distill this for a moment. You are talking about the age old tradition of embellishing a true story with fantastic moments. Kind of like the bible. I can do the artwork if you write the story. I am no Frank Frazetta, but I get by.
I will give an example: Contents: 1 Captains Log (Random Events Booklet), 200 card event deck, 1 6-sided dice. Rules: On each turn player contolling ship rolls d6, on a roll of 1 a random event occurs, pick a card from pre-shuffled deck and consult Captains Log to resolve event prior to ship taking any movement or actions. Synapsis(start of Campaign): Due to your hard work dockside, and your willigness to volunteer for Naval duty, the Captain of a ship takes you on as a Midshipman. (Pick a vessel of your choice, and Nationality. As a Midshipman, you have limited control, therefore only 1 Move or Ships Action may be picked by you per round, the rest are randomly picked. As you gain rank, more resposibility of the ship goes to you, as well as abilities.) A Midshipman card displaying that countries uniform goes next to your ship mat (representing you aboard vessel). Place ocean play area out and put your ship closest to you at the edge. Pick 1 move or action, and fill remaining slots with randomly drawn corresponding chits and cards. Round 1: roll d6, get a 4, ok smooth sailing out of the harbor. Move ship, perform action if applicable, nothing in sight so on to round 2. Smooth sailing till say round 4, a roll of 1, ok, drawing card, a picture of a sextant on card below that it reads "refer to page 10, paragraph 4 in Captains Log", below that it reads "It's better to know where you're going, than know where you've been.", referencing the 'Captains Log' it says, you have been gifted a "Quality Sextant" from someone you love, to assure you safe passage. 'Keep this card, until you have discard it.' Anytime this ship is to collide with shoals, sandbars, or obstructions roll a d6, on a roll of 5 or 6 the collision is avoided. Few more turns later another 1 is rolled, this one reads "Promotion at Sea" refer to page 50 paragraph 3 of Captains Log, below that in italics it reads "Hip, Hip, Horay!" looking to the log book it reads "If you have accumulated 5 promotion points than you are promoted to the next highest rank!, if you haven't, place card in discard pile." (Points could go by cards granting them, as well as victories at sea against other ships, 2 points for same class, 1 point for lower classes and 3 points for higher classes, SOL are worth 5. Anyway, with tweaking and all that, the game would play you, sort of speak, also you would be fighting not only other ships but the sea itself.

TexaS
05-22-2015, 01:28
I'd say there could be classes of cards; between games and during games.

Between games could be: promotion of your lieutenant, trouble in the harbour, bad delivery of meat - crew eats biscuits, etc.

During games could be: Man over board, fog, albatross, huge sharks, dolphins, etc.

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 01:32
Also, card artwork is very important in keeping to the 'feel' of the game, keeping in tune with the starter set (since that is what we're accustomed to.) But the possibilities are endless, the rank and move, action system is open to a lot of tweaking, but it is meant to portray either a bad Captain or a good one randomly. With the player, a junior ranking officer, at his whim. At least until a card of fortune is drawn or you get a ship of your own, ie (If you have captured a ship, and are of the rank of Midshipman or Lieutenant, than the Captain puts you in charge as ACTING CAPTAIN till you reach a friendly port, at which time you gain 2 extra promotion points and return to your original ship.), Another card could read, "Burial At Sea", in the Log it states: "You partake in the ceremony of a deceased crewman." Roll d6 1-2 Jack or Seaman (no effect) 3 Able Seaman (morale reduced for 1 round) 4 Midshipman (morale reduced for 3 rounds) 5 Sailng Master (veer rating reduced by 2 till docked at friendly port) 6 Captain (You are now acting Captain, with morale reduced by 2 and ships actions reduced by 1 till you reach a friendly port, then gain 1 promotion point and receive new Captain) Keep card until effects are resolved. Another example, a little wilder this time, drawn card reads "Sweetest singin' I er'r heard!" with a picture of sailors pointing to a woman chest deep in the ocean off the bow. Log Book reads: "By God they're real, those lovely women of the sea!" (Your ship and your crew are under attack by Sirens or Mermaids of the Sea!" place an island token at the 4th space of the ruler in front of your ship, roll d6 1-2 full sails 3-4 battle sails , 5-6 struck sails (Captain and crew resist) now move ship straight toward island one move with appropriate sail setting. If beaching occurs, determine damage to your ship and crew, lost crew are considered eaten and lost. Each turn thereafter roll d6, a roll of 6 gets your ship free, any other roll results in 1 more lost crew marker. (Bet you wish you had that sextant card now!) I hope i'm making sense here, you see it can stay in tune with the game, without going all crazy. -Mark

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 01:39
I'd say there could be classes of cards; between games and during games.

Between games could be: promotion of your lieutenant, trouble in the harbour, bad delivery of meat - crew eats biscuits, etc.

During games could be: Man over board, fog, albatross, huge sharks, dolphins, etc.
Oh absolutely!, whatever makes the most sense. Two decks, AT SEA: and IN PORT: , probably would be better that way, love affairs, marriages, legal troubles, items purchased, etc IN PORT, and the ocean and her hazards including ship to ship AT SEA:..... Good point Jonas!

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 02:00
IN PORT rules could be roll d6 that's the number of turns spent in harbor, or town, or far off island even! With that many d6 rolls and events happening on 1 or 2 in town, 1 on island. Only applicable cards count depending on location, no dates with Governors daughter on uncharted isles, etc, could be redraws, or just put in discard pile after first draw and non-applicable.

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 18:12
Let's distill this for a moment. You are talking about the age old tradition of embellishing a true story with fantastic moments. Kind of like the bible. I can do the artwork if you write the story. I am no Frank Frazetta, but I get by.

I would also like to shout out a thank you to Kenneth for offering assistance on artwork for my yet redeemable idea, I am by no means a whiz to tech aspects of game designing, but I am an idea man. Ken, your response tells me you're going in the right direction, now it's a matter of tuning and application. History tells us there was soooo much more involved in traversing the worlds waters during wartime operations in the age of sail than "OK, go here, shoot them, go home." The Sea itself was tougher on the ships and crew, than often the engagements themselves. And the fine elegance of the period itself is the draw to we living in this modern day of smoke and machines and no small measure of noise. Things were much simpler then, crime was punished swiftly, and often violently, commerce was done with a word and a handshake, and people lived full, eventful lives with conveniences carved by hand lasting long after they expired. I would like to capture that feel for SOG, with the history spun around the ship and the player, without all the paper pushing of RPG's. Some mechanic that is smooth running and gives backstory to every game turn. :) -Mark

fredmiracle
05-22-2015, 18:17
History tells us there was soooo much more involved in traversing the worlds waters during wartime operations in the age of sail than "OK, go here, shoot them, go home."

I had a few weeks in December where things were dead, and started developing similar ideas. Ever since then work/family has been nonstop, but you may be interested in what I was pursuing (and hope to come back to at some point)

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?2995-Anyone-want-to-help-thrash-out-campaign-rules

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 20:38
I had a few weeks in December where things were dead, and started developing similar ideas. Ever since then work/family has been nonstop, but you may be interested in what I was pursuing (and hope to come back to at some point)

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?2995-Anyone-want-to-help-thrash-out-campaign-rules

Very nicely done Fred!, the pictures are very nice. Yes, that is very similar, from a strictly military view of the game. But my system is a little more "what's going to happen to me now?", Throwing everything in the mix, at port, and at sea. The cards are the pictorial referece, the log book is the guide. With easy directions on playing out the encounter in parenthesis after a short, draw you in story or explanation. Say, in multiplay, one British frigate is battling a French SOL and a French frigate, 2 rounds go by with the British and French player rolling 3's and 4's on their turns, thus no outside interference in the battle. The English frigate is getting pounded when suddenly the French player rolls a 1, he draws an "AT SEA" event card, checking the log book it says his ship runs aground on submerged shoals, after rolling randomly, it's his SOL. His frigate continues to engage. Next turn British player rolls a 3, French player rolls a 1! Drawing again and referencing it says: Sail Ho! With a short explanation and a random rolling and distance chart. The player rolls 2d6 and gets an English SOL 6 spaces (game ruler) away! Uh Oh! The French frigate decides to high tail it and the poor battered British frigate is saved! Anything could happen though, according to the imagination of the cards made and Captains Log reference book. Maybe a sudden squall, affecting all ships on the board, maybe a mutiny on board one of the ships during the battle, maybe a Kraken rises from the deep and engages the SOL?

Mark Kaiser
05-22-2015, 20:54
You see quite simply, I have the ideas, but without a working computer or printer or the tech skills, not the means. I tried working on this years ago with POTC build your ship game and pulled pics from all over the internet from all sources, to display on the cards, from photos of dressed up people on Facebook to ancient drawings and art. I put everything on the cards though as the gameplay is minimal at best. But it was looking good. The idea for a "Captains Log" going more in depth for SOG hit me when I thought of OMEGA GAMES RANGER: Tactical Modern Patrolling Operations and the tactical events booklet within that describes your current situation and choices you can make to resolve them.

TroubleAtTMill
05-30-2015, 14:24
Guys I've got two of those decks sealed and ready for sale. They are in Australia so that means postage alone would be $14.10A to USA! Sooo, if you are still interested email privately.

Doffs hat to Berthier - arrived all the way up from down under this morning. Many thanks.

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John Paul
05-31-2015, 00:37
I agree with Kenneth. I think most non-ship expansions will be developed by fans due to cost, and to Ares being a small company with little resources for such development.

I have seen several folks produce some great work on the 'Drome for WoG. With the ability to print quality materials at places like Kinkos, and the ability of folks to do graphic design on home computers, I think we could populate the files sections with all sorts of alternative play aids.

Downloading stuff that others have the ability to make, and post to the files section would make me very happy! If I ever figure out how to do some of this work myself, and get it to turn out right I would certainly get it posted for the use of others!! Seems only fair to me!!

Bligh
05-31-2015, 03:42
This reminds me of the work Ryan (aka Mad Hatter) was doing on The Atlantic Campaign and his Master Campaign. Very professional looking and well done. Unfortunately, he's not been on in over a year.

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?1929-My-Version-of-Scenario-Book&highlight=atlantic+campaign

http://sailsofglory.org/showthread.php?1938-The-Atlantic-Campaign-of-1806&highlight=atlantic+campaign

Thanks for the link to this Jim.
It looks like something i could tackle solo when the next ships are released.
Rob.

Nightmoss
05-31-2015, 10:08
Thanks for the link to this Jim.
It looks like something i could tackle solo when the next ships are released.
Rob.

Agreed. I've had the files saved since Ryan first posted them, but have done nothing with them yet. Same with the Med. Campaign that won the Ares Scenario Contest. Maybe I need to do less modeling and more gaming? :question:

Gotham Resident
06-10-2015, 13:06
You can find the text of the cards and the rules here: http://www.aresgames.eu/11275

There are only 10 actions here. I'm gonna make my own deck. I have some cardstock from copying my WGS decks, so I will print these on it. Typed them into word and printing on one side to fit on a playing card size. I just added the word Capt to Fast thinking and added the word "Crew" to each crew ability title.

Now for a back fo the deck logo I can glue that to the back of each card.

Unregistered
06-01-2017, 05:39
Hi guys! I'm just getting into the game and was wondering if anyone still had the captains/crew skills deck for sale?

DaveyJones
06-06-2017, 19:00
i have a homemade set of ability cards, would it not be some kind of copyrights violation or otherwise
offend anyone to upload the files though?

it is an alternate printer friendly design, not a direct copy.

David Manley
06-07-2017, 02:28
Probably OK, there seem to be plenty of locally made pilot and ace cards on the Aerodrome, I guess this is similar?

Bligh
06-07-2017, 02:56
I could not possibly comment Davey.
let's see a sample, and I will pass judgement.
Rob.

DaveyJones
06-07-2017, 03:40
as you can see, the text is verbatim but it's alt. graphics.

http://i63.tinypic.com/okr4sw.jpg

DaveyJones
06-07-2017, 03:42
Probably OK, there seem to be plenty of locally made pilot and ace cards on the Aerodrome, I guess this is similar?

i think those are custom variants, not the text from the original.

Bligh
06-07-2017, 09:09
I don't have a problem with that Davey. Send them to the Files, and if you get them in before I leave tomorrow I will ratify them.
Rob.

DaveyJones
06-07-2017, 12:41
done.

nothing fancy, but it does the job.
btw this has not been thoroughly checked for typo's by a 3rd party, so if you spot any mistakes let me know.

Bligh
06-07-2017, 13:36
For some reason I have had no notification of a file awaiting moderation, so you will need to PM Keith with a request to ratify the file.
Sorry, I have this authority on the Drome but obviously not here as yet.
Rob.

DaveyJones
06-08-2017, 06:47
ok pm sent.

btw: i have a similar set i made for wings, only that one is actually made to look like the original.
you think that would be an issue?
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?27800-homemade-ace-cards&p=447840#post447840

DaveyJones
07-02-2017, 08:49
well i am not getting a reply, so i dunno if the file has been rejected or not.

if somebody wants these send me a pm or email and ill send over the file p2p.

Bligh
07-02-2017, 11:13
Hi Davey.
I just got a PM from Eric on the Drome concerning another matter, so have asked him to try and find out why I can't moderate the files on the Anchorage.
Rob.

DaveyJones
07-14-2017, 09:47
i get the impression that the admin is having some personal issues preventing him from responding.
but at the same time, based on other files being posted i get the impression that these cards have been rejected.

Bligh
07-14-2017, 10:28
Keith has been unwell but is now off on a ten day recuperation break. things should start getting back to normal after this.
Rob.

DaveyJones
10-06-2017, 02:58
so... did keith die?

Naharaht
10-06-2017, 03:05
No, Keith is back in action again.

Bligh
10-06-2017, 03:15
I however still cannot moderate downloads to the files'
I will give Keith another PM about this Davey.
Rob.

HMS Goliath
10-06-2017, 19:57
Tiberius, what's wrong with the port of Los Angeles?
Just for the record, I'm typing this from Long Beach right next door to the Port of LA.

Bligh
10-07-2017, 03:42
Not sure how long you may be waiting for an answer Robert, we have not heard from Tiberius since the start of February this year.
Rob.

HMS Goliath
10-07-2017, 09:22
No matter, I was just curious as to his comment about the Port of Los Angeles. I live in northern Long Beach and the port of LA and the port of Long Beach interconnect.