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Berthier
11-29-2011, 03:18
General links for the period

The Napoleon Series http://www.napoleon-series.org/ THE site for all things Napoleonic

Maritime museums

http://www.musee-marine.fr/site/fr/PAGE-UK French national maritime in Paris

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/ Greenwich naval museum

http://www.mmb.cat Maritime museum Barcelona

http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/ciencia_museo/prefLang_en/ Madrid maritime museum

http://museu.marinha.6pt/museu/site/pt Portugese maritime museum (No English?)

http://www.navalmuseum.ru/ Russian maritime museum (No English?)

http://www.maritimemuseums.net/europe.html Master list of museums for many of the other European states

Ship Model Building sites

http://www.finemodelships.com/ (http://www.finemodelships.com/) Model ship site (Admin, quite possibly the best resource for how these ships looked for the new ship painters out there... Admin)

http://www.building-model-boats.com/plastic-ship-models.html Plastic models larger scale

http://www.ageofsail.net/ BIG models

http://www.agesofsail.com/ BIG models

Age of Sail sites

http://ageofsail.wordpress.com/ Blog- includes at the time of writing an unbelievable video of live firing of period cannon showing the effect of splinter damage

http://ageofsail.devhub.com/

http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/index.html Lots of ship data and info, really good

1/1200 Miniatures ship sites

http://www.rodlangton.com/ Langtons miniatures 1/1200

http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/military-models-napoleonic-micronauts.html GHQ Micronauts 1/1200

http://www.skytrex.com/381/11200th-napoleonic-action-under-sail-1756--1815/ Skytrex 1/1200 scale minis

http://navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp?MMID=73 Navwar 1/1200 minis


Miniatures rules

Action Under Sail Tabletop Games
Clear For Action Langton Miniatures
Close Action Clash of Arms
Davey Jones Locker Sutton Hoo Games
Fire As She Bears! Angst Games
First Rate NLWG Publications
Heart of Oak Fantasy Games Unlimited
Hoist the Signal for Close Action Langton Miniatures
Line of Battle Hoplite Research

Geeklists for age of sail wargames (mainly board) from boardgamegeek

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/37352/sea-warfare-in-the-age-of-sail-database

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/27996/age-of-sail

The Cowman
11-29-2011, 06:10
Thanks Daniel... this crewman most definitely needs some training... These will help

Comte de Brueys
12-01-2011, 02:27
Impressive, you were busy...

Thanks.

Capt P
12-01-2011, 17:37
Daniel awesome links. Thanks for the info.

Niek_vD
12-02-2011, 01:49
Another interesting source of ship data: http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913970/FrontPage

Also, Close Action by Clash of Arms is really a boardgame. The company says "miniatures game", but you'll need a hexagonal grid along with the miniatures.

Berthier
12-02-2011, 05:22
Quite right Niek about Close Actions. Don't know if you have played it but it is pretty "heavy" going, WSIM more my style or Flying Colors (GMT) as per your avatar.

The Royal Hajj
12-02-2011, 06:22
Nicely done Sir Berthier. I've stuck my cutlass in this thread and pinned it to the Chippie Shop bulkhead!

Berthier
12-02-2011, 06:25
Keith I am getting sea sick my posts keep getting moved:o

Old Salt
12-02-2011, 06:48
Impressive, you were busy...

Thanks. Well done

Gunner
12-02-2011, 17:40
Thanks Daniel. You saved a lot of swabs a lot of time.

Gunner
12-02-2011, 17:53
Another interesting source of ship data: http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913970/FrontPage

Also, Close Action by Clash of Arms is really a boardgame. The company says "miniatures game", but you'll need a hexagonal grid along with the miniatures.

Great site Niek. Lots of information on Napoleonic ships of the world. The book on the front page (Russian Warships in the Age of Sail) is the best book on the Russian Navy that I own.

Tommy Z
12-02-2011, 18:26
Thanks! Very Helpful!

Bligh
12-03-2011, 02:26
Great to have all this info, for a poor old salt who never crossed the line afore.
Rob.

Horatio Nelson
12-03-2011, 09:39
Very useful, thanks!

Niek_vD
12-04-2011, 03:56
The choice between Close Action (CA), Wooden Ships and Iron Men (WSIM) , and Flying Colors (FC), is really one of the number of ships to be controlled per player.

CA is really a one player per ship game, although a good player should be able to handle two. So Trafalgar needs about 30 players minimum, and more is better. I've done it online twice, never face-to-face.

Our club prefers 'squadrons' of 3 to 4 ships per player when playing WSIM. 6 is doable, but the firing slows things down quite a bit. Trafalgar can be done with the historical squadron division of 5 allied admirals versus 4 British, though roughly double that number is better.

FC is more geared towards fleet actions. My preferred FC scenario's have roughly 10-15 ships a side, and can be played one on one. Trafalgar is OK with 2 or 3 players per side.

Bluedevil
12-05-2011, 01:15
@ Niek

Hehe...I should have known you were into this :) Hardly surprising when you live in a country that has almost as many waterways as there are roads ;)

Looks like, once squadrons are being formed here, I'll have to make a choice between sailing for the French or the Dutch ..as Belgium didn't exist yet a a country... Or I could go "Pirate" :cool:

I've played mainly WSIM mostly using the counters and sometimes on a hexagonal grid with 1/1200 ships.

Berthier
12-05-2011, 05:19
Well I think everyone would like to play Trafalgar at some stage, but wouldn't it be nice to do The Saints, Glorious First of June and Trincomalee etc and have them manageable?

It seems the curse of naval wargaming that getting a system that works for fleet action doesn't work for single ship or small vessel engagements. And systems that work well at the level of ship on ship become impossibly complex or convoluted for fleet actions. WSIM came close to striking a balance between the two scales, Frigate was OK for fleet action, got silly at some of the smaller engagements (some ships were pitted against ships they couldn't score a hit against! There was a revision in a Moves magazine to fix this particular issue). I haven't played CA because the minutae of single ship action was perhaps too closely modelled and the consequent rules set I found hard to get through. FC I've played a couple of times, the first using markers on the board for everything which was a mistake as the stacks of counters were ridiculous. Going to manual record keeing was much more satisfying and visually appealing.

What I'm hopeful of, and actually slightly confident of, is the ability to tinker with the SOG system if it needs to make it fit the scale desired. Saying that Wings of War (Glory) is primarily a 1on1 or a few on a few system of battle, so if SOG is modelled on a similar system perhaps what we can expect is a similar scale of battle not a system that will easily allow two large fleets to meet.

It would be nice to have a release date to look forward to.....

The Royal Hajj
12-08-2011, 05:22
For those of you wanting to maybe build and paint your own ships, the link highlighted in red in the main list is quit possibly the most useful site for how these ships looked. They get right in on the details with superb photos. Their gallery is a Most See as far as I'm concerned.

Check it out!

Berthier
12-08-2011, 05:38
And here's another great online, and downloadable, link

http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924027921372

A naval biographical dictionary: comprising the life and services of every living officer in Her Majesty's navy, from the rank of admiral of the fleet to that of lieutenant, inclusive (1849)

Attila57
12-08-2011, 05:51
Very useful! Thx for sharing this infos!

Attilio

Bligh
12-08-2011, 07:06
For those of you wanting to maybe build and paint your own ships, the link highlighted in red in the main list is quit possibly the most useful site for how these ships looked. They get right in on the details with superb photos. Their gallery is a Most See as far as I'm concerned.

Check it out!
That is going to be a really useful resource when things kick off Keith. I'm waiting to see how Ares match up to Langtons before I make a firm decision on which way to jump, but that will be a very good guide.
Rob.

The Royal Hajj
12-08-2011, 07:13
As a complete newbie to ships, I needed something that could show me what was flash and what was ship on the Navwar mini Ed sent me. That page helped me out quite a bit in that reguard. I'm pretty sure I'll have that site and the great thread by fire6 open everytime I would on one of the ship kits.

The Cowman
12-08-2011, 19:03
As a complete newbie to ships, I needed something that could show me what was flash and what was ship on the Navwar mini Ed sent me. That page helped me out quite a bit in that reguard. I'm pretty sure I'll have that site and the great thread by fire6 open everytime I would on one of the ship kits.

Right there with you being a newbie... and do have to agree. It is now a "Favorite"

Berthier
12-10-2011, 05:49
Can't wait for Ares and need rules to play?

http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php?filters=40104_0_40005_0

Should be more than enough here to keep you busy. make sure you scan down to the proper list, not the boxed section at the page top.

Berthier
12-12-2011, 02:47
More extremely useful links because you dont have anything else to read...
http://www.boat-links.com/boatlink.html

http://www.castyouranchorhobby.com/ this one looks like a great spot to find model related items

http://www.modelboatlinks.com/index.shtml more model links

http://www.shipmodels.com.ua/ fantastic pictures and close ups of large scale models to help with colour schemes, rigging etc

http://www.ahrtp.com/HallofFameOnline3/MaritimeHistoryLinks2.htm another exhaustive list of AOS links

Bligh
12-12-2011, 04:57
Yes I agree very useful Daniel. Great for adding details to our vessels. Now that is what I call a Figurehead.

475


Rob.

Berthier
12-12-2011, 05:35
That position looks ...uncomfortable:eek:

Gunner
12-12-2011, 08:15
They wouldn't let her horse on board, so she had to make do. I wonder if she can make the 8 seconds in rough seas?

Berthier
01-27-2012, 21:43
Further to bobby's question about books here is a link to an exhaustive site dedicated to novels set in the age of sail. You wont believe just how many there are!

http://www.historicnavalfiction.com/

Berthier
01-27-2012, 21:52
Now for a new link to those ships that have been wrecked at sea. When you have several hours to spare (you'll need them) start browsing this one

http://www.wrecksite.eu/Wrecksite.aspx

Again a staggering quantity of information on shipwrecks from all periods but plenty from the age of sail to keep you occupied. Plan your next diving holiday perhaps!

Bligh
01-28-2012, 02:03
Now that is what I call a useful archive Daniel.
I have read many books on Naval warfare over the years, but have also forgotten the titles of many of them, so thanks for that.
Bligh.

Coog
01-28-2012, 14:56
Great list of useful sites. Thanks for posting them.

Berthier
03-16-2012, 06:41
Found another ripper site, don't know how I missed this one.

http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/portal.php

Go to the forums and look under "completed models" and "build logs". Your jaw will drop when you see what some of these people have built. Although we're talking large scale here, the detail is staggering and can be used for "our" models for colour etc..

Diamondback
01-20-2013, 02:04
When I asked Andrea for a start-point, he recommended http://www.threedecks.org . It's a lot to take in at once for somebody whose paradigm is the relatively 'standardized' designs of WWII, but I can't say I regret poking in even though my brain DOES hurt from it.

Bligh
01-20-2013, 03:52
That will be very useful to me as well. Thanks for the Heads up D.B.
Bligh.

Diamondback
01-20-2013, 12:29
An earlier version of 3D is linked above, but the new site is a lot better.

7eat51
01-25-2013, 13:46
Thank you all for the links. This is an incredible forum.

If some of you consider yourselves to be newbies, then I haven't even been conceived yet.

Jack Aubrey
01-26-2013, 06:49
Thanks, absolute great!
I have to take a second job to get more money, build a bigger house and the day must have 48 hours..:rolleyes:

Volunteer
02-17-2013, 11:34
Here are some more cool links:

1) Boat & Ship types: http://www.abc.se/~pa/bld/shiptype.htm#Galley
2) Another boat & ship type site: http://www.thepirateking.com/ships/ship_types.htm
3) This one has lists of all ships by name, all sizes, by nation from 1600 through 1848, plus book lists for each nation. Very cool: http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/index.html
4) The Mother Of All Maritime Links: http://www.boat-links.com/boatlink.html#top
5) This one is an index list of reviews on just about every plastic ship kit out there from ancient to modern. The reviews have photos and everything: http://www.boat-links.com/boatlink.html#top

Bligh
02-17-2013, 12:16
Very useful thanks Vol.

Bligh.

Gunner
02-17-2013, 12:51
Thanks for #3 Vol. Gave me much info on Turkish SOL's & Frigates.


Here are some more cool links:

1) Boat & Ship types: http://www.abc.se/~pa/bld/shiptype.htm#Galley
2) Another boat & ship type site: http://www.thepirateking.com/ships/ship_types.htm
3) This one has lists of all ships by name, all sizes, by nation from 1600 through 1848, plus book lists for each nation. Very cool: http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/index.html
4) The Mother Of All Maritime Links: http://www.boat-links.com/boatlink.html#top
5) This one is an index list of reviews on just about every plastic ship kit out there from ancient to modern. The reviews have photos and everything: http://www.boat-links.com/boatlink.html#top

Volunteer
02-17-2013, 15:06
I hoped it would be useful to someone. I use it quite a bit.

Diamondback
02-18-2013, 17:30
Can anyone recommend a book or site with technical commentaries on design of various ship classes, what evolved from what, like how the late M.J. Whitley covered warships of WWII?

Coog
02-18-2013, 18:54
Can anyone recommend a book or site with technical commentaries on design of various ship classes, what evolved from what, like how the late M.J. Whitley covered warships of WWII?

The American Sailing Navy (see book review for details) goes into great detail on ship construction. However it just covers American ships from the colonial period to the last years of sail.

Volunteer
02-18-2013, 21:23
Diamondback,
Try searching the book catalog on http://www.sea-room.com/

Maybe like:
"Construction And Fitting Of An English Man-of-war 1650-1850" by Peter Goodwin,
--A delightfully authoritative study that provides precise and detailed information on hull frame construction, hull planking, bulkheads and internal layout, machinery, beams, knees, and internal stiffening., H, Pages 288. 100 Photos, 300 Illust., Hull Frame Construction., 9.75X 12.

Jack Aubrey
02-19-2013, 04:25
http://www.line-of-battle.de/
Here a link to a german site, with a complete rule-system ..

Volunteer
02-21-2013, 09:25
Here is a link to a site called the Dictionary of Vexillology (the study of flags). This site will be useful to all genre of miniature wargaming and modeling, not just naval.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/vxt-dtoc.html

Gunner
02-21-2013, 10:23
Here is a link to a site called the Dictionary of Vexillology (the study of flags). This site will be useful to all genre of miniature wargaming and modeling, not just naval.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/vxt-dtoc.html

Now this is a site I can use. Thanks.

Diamondback
02-21-2013, 15:35
Uh, guys, when I say "design commentary"--while I appreciate the referrals :)--I'm looking for things like "HMS Such-and-such was basically the design of HMS Other Ship chopped in half with a ten-foot plug spliced in", like did a given class's design start from a clean sheet of paper, or like the supermajority of Sir Thomas Slade's 74-gun SOL's was it an evolution of another design? (Almost all of the Slade 74's were basically improved and refined versions of his basic HMS Bellona design. Slade was also a big fan of enlarging or reducing existing designs... Someday I'll post what I've pieced together from Wikipedia about the development of the RN's rated ships.)

Volunteer
02-22-2013, 09:14
Sorry Diamondback, I've got nothing. It sounds like you have already explored all of the avenues I use. James has abstracts of all UK vessels from 1792 to 1820, catagorized by a reference letter system not a name. A named ship would be classified as an A, B, D, F, etc. depending on the layout, location and type of guns, and crew compliment. If a ship was modified from one of the normal categories, it receives a new reference code. The difficulty I have found is trying to match a specific named ship to a category. James is pretty good about identifying an RN ships category within the book text, but not 100% of the time. He also includes tables in the first volume for many of the French categories and refers to the tables when discussing a specific ship. I am constantly flipping back and forth to get the information I am looking for.

Wikipedia is also another source I use, however I have found numerous errors. Understandable when anyone can input or change the data on Wiki.

Bottom line is that William James is my main source, but I don't think you will find everything you are looking for there.

Volunteer
02-22-2013, 11:22
Diamondback,
I just ran across this little paragragh in James while looking for my historical post for today. You might think it interesting.

"The Sibylle had been a French 40-gun frigate, until captured by the Romney 50, in June, 1794. On being fitted out in the British service, the Sibylle, a fine Toulon-built frigate of 1091 tons, was armed with 44 long 18 and 9 pounders ; but, subsequently, 10 of her 16 nines were exchanged for fourteen 32-pounder carronades. This gave her 28 long 18-pounders on the main deck, and six long nines and fourteen 32-pounder carronades on the quarterdeck and forecastle, total 48 guns ; which was the precise force of the Sibylle on the present occasion. Her net complement, as originally established ; was 297 men and boys ; but the ship, at this time, accidentally had on board a greater number, as we shall presently show.

Frigates, mounting 24-pounders on the main deck, have always been rare. The British possessed none until the three 64s, Indefatigable, Anson, and Magnanime, were reduced ; nor the French until the Pomone was launched. The capture of the latter by the British gave birth to the Endymion ; and, about the time that the Endymion was launched, the Americana set afloat three of the largest and heaviest frigates that the world had ever seen. The second 24-pounder frigate built by the French was, we believe, launched at Rochefort, in the summer of 1795, and she was very appropriately named La Forte. The Pomone was about 1270 tons, and mounted twenty-six 24 pounders on her main deck. The Forte measured 1400 tons, and carried, for which she had ample room, one gun more of a side on her main deck than the Pomone ; making, with 14 long eights and four brass 36-pounder carronades on her quarterdeck and forecastle, a total of 46 guns.

These, we have no doubt, were all the guns which, with e complement of 480 or 500 men, the Forte originally carried. But subsequently, when perhaps Rear-admiral Sercey hoisted his flag on board of her in the beginning of the year 1796, four additional brass 36-pounder carronades were added to her armament ; and, subsequently again, two long English 24-pounders, taken out of some prize probably, were placed in her two maindeck bow-ports ; thus making her guns amount to 52, exclusive of eight 1-pounder swivels mounted along the top of her waist hammock-nettings. After this, it is hoped, not profitless digression, we return to the Sibylle, whom we left hastening towards the Sand-heads, which lie off the mouth of Bengal river, in the hope there to meet this same truly formidable French frigate."

Volunteer
02-22-2013, 11:40
Here is another link to Late 18th, 19th and early 20th century Naval and Naval Social History. You will find William James' Naval History of Great Britain in it's entirety here.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/Naval.html

Volunteer
02-22-2013, 17:14
Diamondback, I believe I may have found the site you need: http://threedecks.org/

This site is the culmination of several years of collecting naval data from the age of sailing ships.
There are currently 19,543 ships, 20,922 seamen, 721 actions/battles and countless other items listed on this site.
There are categories for Ships, Seamen, Actions, Classes, Captures, Shipwrights, Source, Glossary, Rates, Types, and Definitions.
If you can't find what you need here I give up!

Diamondback
02-22-2013, 21:27
Vol, thanks--I already hang out at ThreeDecks a lot, and while they give you the technical numbers there's a lot of room for variation on "X feet over gundeck, Y tons BM, 32 guns". And once I get the other laptop booted, I'm going to start a thread that should knock some socks off with data I've assembled... :)

EDIT: It's up.

Berthier
03-23-2013, 01:15
New link
http://www.hazegray.org/

Really good site for history of military ships primarily US. Although mainly "modern" ships predominate it has a nice historical section on all US ships including our period, some links to other sites including AOSail, nice stuff on modern ship building and details on todays fleets and in depth on Canadian fleet.

Diamondback
03-23-2013, 02:05
Not sure if it's already listed, but there's a veritable treasure-trove at http://www.history.navy.mil/ --they have the complete Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships while last I knew HazeGrey only had a partial, and they were a big help to me when I was researching ship histories to do custom cards over at Forumini and for my research on aircraft-carrier capacities to fix a systemic but easily-repaired flaw in Axis & Allies: War at Sea.

Also, check out http://www.ourflagwasstillthere.org/ .

Cmmdre
04-12-2013, 23:33
:thumbsup: Daniel and Vol I thank you both for sharing such exhaustive links to resources and information. This whole week I've been meaning to log off and get to bed at a reasonable hour without success. so much to read never enough time. :sleep:

Volunteer
04-13-2013, 09:21
:thumbsup: Daniel and Vol I thank you both for sharing such exhaustive links to resources and information. This whole week I've been meaning to log off and get to bed at a reasonable hour without success. so much to read never enough time. :sleep:

You are entirely welcome Paul. Anything I can do to spread or feed an interest in AoS I will do. Who needs sleep?

Devsdoc
04-13-2013, 23:05
I must come here more often. Thanks for all the tips
Be safe
Rory

CHolgren
04-26-2013, 04:43
Thanks to this info I took the first step and dipped my toe in waters of 1/1200 minis. Looking forward to giving it my best. We'll see how long my patience and eyesight hold out.

Devsdoc
04-26-2013, 13:46
Thanks to this info I took the first step and dipped my toe in waters of 1/1200 minis. Looking forward to giving it my best. We'll see how long my patience and eyesight hold out.

Hi Cory,
Just think of the ship as "Just a another wargame model" and you will be fine :salute: Stop making them something special.
Be safe
Rory

HMS Lydia
04-26-2013, 14:54
Daniel,

This is great stuff, lots of material to go through. Appreciate yours the folks that have added to this list for the work in putting it together. Bravo Zulu!

Bob

Berthier
04-26-2013, 22:27
Thanks Bob, the early days of SOG forum were pretty quiet so we had to fill our time in somehow!

Been looking at the links page and I think it needs re-organising to get all the various links from the various posts grouped together and sorted by type but not sure how to do that. Any suggestions guys?

Nightmoss
12-01-2013, 13:20
I'm ordering some custom bases for upcoming ship builds and came across this news.

Litko Game Accessories is offering 20% off all purchases this weekend and it includes custom items. The sale runs through Monday.

http://www.litko.net/news/75/Our-2013-Black-Friday-Sale-Has-Begun%21-20%25-OFF-Through-Cyber-Monday.html#.UpuWgMRDtAI

I didn't want to start a new thread and seeing how this concerns the hobby side of SoG I thought this might be the best place to post the information. If this information is not appropriate for the Anchorage please delete the post. Thanks.

Gunner
12-01-2013, 13:46
I'm ordering some custom bases for upcoming ship builds and came across this news.

Litko Game Accessories is offering 20% off all purchases this weekend and it includes custom items. The sale runs through Monday.

http://www.litko.net/news/75/Our-2013-Black-Friday-Sale-Has-Begun%21-20%25-OFF-Through-Cyber-Monday.html#.UpuWgMRDtAI

I didn't want to start a new thread and seeing how this concerns the hobby side of SoG I thought this might be the best place to post the information. If this information is not appropriate for the Anchorage please delete the post. Thanks.

Thanks for the info Jim. You just saved me some $$$.:beer::happy:

Nightmoss
12-01-2013, 15:57
Thanks for the info Jim. You just saved me some $$$.:beer::happy:

Glad to hear you could take advantage of the sale. Saving me some dollars as well.

garchilajr
06-16-2015, 00:23
Thank you very much for these excellent resources!

Bos'n
06-16-2015, 03:30
Gustavo,

Keep doing what your doing. There are resources on you list that I will have to investigate. :envy: More stuff to do.

Happy gaming, :cannonboom::takecover: :cannon:

Bob. :salute:

AirborneEnginee
01-19-2016, 19:53
I found this great thesis on Eighteenth-Century Colonial American Merchant Ship Construction very interesting indeed though I have only read a small portion yet!

http://nautarch.tamu.edu/pdf-files/VanHorn-MA2004.pdf

Bligh
01-20-2016, 03:18
I just had a dip into this and found some very interesting points, especially on the attempt to reduce crew to a minimum by the development of easy to use equipment. Also the way in which timber availability effected the constructional methods, and avoidance of wastage. it will certainly influence my play with Merchantmen in the future. Most ships obviously ran on what we would call a skeleton crew. No wonder they got into difficulties if a Man of War's Captain impressed his 10%.

We could really do with a similar work for warships.
Thanks for posting this Airbourne.
Rob.

AirborneEnginee
01-20-2016, 04:24
Glad to post it! It makes me think we should rate merchant ships as starting out with only 2 crew actions. There guns might be loaded before the fight but they would have a tough time reloading, sailing, and doing damage control at the same time.

Bligh
01-20-2016, 04:49
Quite agree, unless it was an Indiaman who could afford to run full crew.
On the strength of what was read, I was just chatting with my son about the use of timber and construction methods used. Inevitably the conversation moved onto crewing, replacing spars after gales etc. When we got onto crew sizes. 150 plus for Frigates, against say 30 for a well found Merchant ship leaving Portsmouth. With the losses incurred on a voyage,deaths, illness, impressment by Warships, etc. we got onto developments in ship handling and how the Merchant Fleets improved technology through sheer necessity. A loss of 10 % crew in Gib, and then another 10% by the next warship you meet say at Capetown, and with say three or four crew lost to accidents, disease etc, you could be down to say 20 men before you even hit the hurricanes in the Indian Ocean. Hardly enough to man the pumps, let alone steer the ship and make good the leaks. Manning the guns! Better hope some of the passengers were Army Officers.:wink:

Rob.

Cmmdre
01-20-2016, 07:25
I found this great thesis on Eighteenth-Century Colonial American Merchant Ship Construction very interesting indeed though I have only read a small portion yet!

http://nautarch.tamu.edu/pdf-files/VanHorn-MA2004.pdf

Thank you for this informative link. :thumbsup:

Naharaht
01-20-2016, 10:01
Thank you for all these valuable links, Daniel.:thumbsup:

Herkybird
01-20-2016, 12:54
Glad to post it! It makes me think we should rate merchant ships as starting out with only 2 crew actions. There guns might be loaded before the fight but they would have a tough time reloading, sailing, and doing damage control at the same time.

I agreed with this, and put it on my provisional designs for merchantmen! - they are on my album at: http://www.sailsofglory.org/album.php?albumid=370 - I hope you agree with my stats?

AirborneEnginee
02-03-2016, 19:42
We could really do with a similar work for warships.
Thanks for posting this Airbourne.
Rob.

Rob,

I just happened upon a similar document for the HMS Pallas Frigate!

http://www.academia.edu/1397649/HMS_Pallas_historical_reconstruction_of_an_18th-century_Royal_Navy_frigate

Bligh
02-04-2016, 00:52
Another superb find AB.
The appendices are particularly informative.
I will read it all in depth later, but from the snippet I have read so far it looks as if the narrative also contains a wealth of information.
Thanks for posting this.
Rob.

Topspri15
06-24-2019, 20:47
General links for the period

The Napoleon Series http://www.napoleon-series.org/ THE site for all things Napoleonic

Maritime museums

http://www.musee-marine.fr/site/fr/PAGE-UK French national maritime in Paris

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/ Greenwich naval museum

http://www.mmb.cat Maritime museum Barcelona

http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/page/Portal/ArmadaEspannola/ciencia_museo/prefLang_en/ Madrid maritime museum

http://museu.marinha.6pt/museu/site/pt Portugese maritime museum (No English?)

http://www.navalmuseum.ru/ Russian maritime museum (No English?)

http://www.maritimemuseums.net/europe.html Master list of museums for many of the other European states

Ship Model Building sites

http://www.finemodelships.com/ (http://www.finemodelships.com/) Model ship site (Admin, quite possibly the best resource for how these ships looked for the new ship painters out there... Admin)

http://www.building-model-boats.com/plastic-ship-models.html Plastic models larger scale

http://www.ageofsail.net/ BIG models

http://www.agesofsail.com/ BIG models

Age of Sail sites

http://ageofsail.wordpress.com/ Blog- includes at the time of writing an unbelievable video of live firing of period cannon showing the effect of splinter damage

http://ageofsail.devhub.com/

http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/index.html Lots of ship data and info, really good

1/1200 Miniatures ship sites

http://www.rodlangton.com/ Langtons miniatures 1/1200

http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/military-models-napoleonic-micronauts.html GHQ Micronauts 1/1200

http://www.skytrex.com/381/11200th-napoleonic-action-under-sail-1756--1815/ Skytrex 1/1200 scale minis

http://navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp?MMID=73 Navwar 1/1200 minis


Miniatures rules

Action Under Sail Tabletop Games
Clear For Action Langton Miniatures
Close Action Clash of Arms
Davey Jones Locker Sutton Hoo Games
Fire As She Bears! Angst Games
First Rate NLWG Publications
Heart of Oak Fantasy Games Unlimited
Hoist the Signal for Close Action Langton Miniatures
Line of Battle Hoplite Research

Geeklists for age of sail wargames (mainly board) from boardgamegeek

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/37352/sea-warfare-in-the-age-of-sail-database

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/27996/age-of-sail

Great. I'll become an expert here because of these. Very helpful

Bligh
06-25-2019, 01:04
Glad you found it useful Hannah.
Rob.