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Пилот
02-06-2014, 04:39
I finished some fire on board markers this morning, and that's how they look on the ship:

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KeithS
02-06-2014, 05:09
Looks good, how do you get them to stay upright?

Пилот
02-06-2014, 06:19
I used pipe cleaner as marker's backbone. I twisted it to spiral shape (at the bottom) to make some kind of stand. Also, I used masts and sails to improve "grip".

DeRuyter
02-06-2014, 08:45
Nice! What did you use around the pipe cleaner? cotton?

Cmmdre
02-06-2014, 08:53
Brilliant work Heмaњa. Looks good. :thumbsup:

Nightmoss
02-06-2014, 09:11
Very nice! Time to abandon ship? Looks pretty serious?! :hatsoff:

Gunner Godson
02-06-2014, 10:01
They are cool! A really scary vision I'm sure.

Jack Aubrey
02-06-2014, 10:07
Scary, yes, good work. :thumbsup:

Пилот
02-06-2014, 17:25
Nice! What did you use around the pipe cleaner? cotton?

First, I mixed water and foam (old sponge), so that water fully covered it in food processor, and chopped all together.

Then, I coarsly drained water (as much as I could) and mixed chopped foam with PVA glue.

Then I formed "flatbreads" and left them to dry, taking care they don't stick to the surface.

When upper side was dry enough I turned it over and left for a day or two, to dry completely.

Then I broke off little bit by bit and glued them with all purpose glue to the pipe cleaner (rubbing it betwen fingers to take care it glues well).

After that I left formed markers to dry.

Tomorrow I painted markers with grey (I mixed black and white in various ammounts). When dry, I highlihted them first with black, than with white, trying to blend highlights in the middle part of marker.

(It maybe sounds like lot's of work, but it actualy isn't. Only you lose lots of time waiting for drying in different stages :wink: ).

7eat51
02-06-2014, 22:08
Very nice, Heмaњa. They look great. Such things will add to the visuals of AARs and to games. :thumbsup:

Andy Blozinski
02-06-2014, 22:19
You should try doing some orange and yellow near the base. Even if you go over it with black smoke, you'd still get a "glowing" look out of it that would add more visual flare.

Пилот
02-07-2014, 01:37
Andy, "open fire" look is very atractive and I've done it with my WoG flame markers. Here, I deliberately decided not to - in this scale even 1/8 of an inch would mean fire is more than 8 feet high.

Gunner
02-07-2014, 02:43
Nice work. Much better than a chit.

Andy Blozinski
02-07-2014, 07:06
Andy, "open fire" look is very atractive and I've done it with my WoG flame markers. Here, I deliberately decided not to - in this scale even 1/8 of an inch would mean fire is more than 8 feet high.
That's why I was thinking it would look better as a glowing background underneath the smoke. 8 foot tall flames are actually short.

stickywicket
02-07-2014, 07:42
I really like this ... how did you form the base so it sits neatly on the deck? I agree with above ... glow effects would look spectacular!

Thank you for this!

Has anyone created effects for cannon smoke ... I have been using cotton

Gunner
02-07-2014, 11:22
Try these for fire http://www.windycitynovelties.com/6692p/red-and-yellow-led-blinky.html Snap the clip off and cover with a thin piece of a cotton ball.

Volunteer
02-07-2014, 14:30
Try these for fire http://www.windycitynovelties.com/6692p/red-and-yellow-led-blinky.html Snap the clip off and cover with a thin piece of a cotton ball.

Yep! Works great! Thanks for sending me one Ed. I wondered where you got it. Now I'll have to order a dozen more for only $8.

Пилот
02-07-2014, 14:51
Try these for fire http://www.windycitynovelties.com/6692p/red-and-yellow-led-blinky.html Snap the clip off and cover with a thin piece of a cotton ball.

It'll look nice :happy:

Andy Blozinski
02-07-2014, 18:44
How big are they? Those have a lot of nifty potential.

Gunner
02-07-2014, 18:58
How big are they? Those have a lot of nifty potential.

Plenty of room on the SOL's. A tight fit between the main and foremast on the Frigates.

Coog
02-07-2014, 19:12
Plenty of room on the SOL's. A tight fit between the main and foremast on the Frigates.

Will they fit when ratlines and rigging go on the ship?

Gunner
02-07-2014, 19:42
Will they fit when ratlines and rigging go on the ship?

Don't think so. But I haven't rigged my SGN's yet.

Volunteer
02-07-2014, 22:03
Will they fit when ratlines and rigging go on the ship?

It's tight Bobby. This is the 114 gun Reina Luisa and it just barely fits with the smoke off to one side. It would fit easier without rigging of course, but who would want ships without rigging?
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Coog
02-07-2014, 22:06
That really looks fantastic!!! I can almost smell the burning wood and tar.:thumbsup:

Nightmoss
02-07-2014, 22:10
Vol, that looks like the L'Orient about to go sky high. Nice!

Volunteer
02-07-2014, 22:22
Hard to capture the flickering red & yellow with a still photo. Gunner sent me this, kind fellow that he is, and I have had loads of fun with it in games. When a fire is rolled I bring it out and set it on or beside the stricken ship and the players go wild! Seriously!

Coog
02-07-2014, 22:28
It could have more uses than with just ships. It would really look good over the hatch of a burning tank. Or for WOG...when a plane is shot down place the plane on the mat off its stand with the fire on it.

7eat51
02-08-2014, 01:56
Very nice, Vol. That looks really good.

Thanks for the link. Ed.

csadn
02-08-2014, 17:08
but who would want ships without rigging?

[wave] :)

Naharaht
02-08-2014, 23:30
Well done Heмaњa and Ed for both of those ideas!:clap: :thumbsup:

Volunteer
02-16-2014, 12:33
Here is another really great looking fire/smoke/explosion piece that I found. I am trying to locate the manufacturer now. They were purchased at a comics shop in Georgia. A friend is investigating for me.

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Volunteer
02-16-2014, 13:28
I found a tutorial "Making Smoke and Flames" at:

http://www.blmablog.com/2011/03/making-smoke-and-flames.html#!/2011/03/making-smoke-and-flames.html

It looks pretty good but I'm not sure I like the weight of the base for setting on my ships. But I can see modifying that to work better.

Gunner
02-16-2014, 13:58
Here is another really great looking fire/smoke/explosion piece that I found. I am trying to locate the manufacturer now. They were purchased at a comics shop in Georgia. A friend is investigating for me.

It looks like the Flames of War smoke and flames # xx601. http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=55&search=flames

Volunteer
02-16-2014, 18:13
I found them at Syr Hobbs Wargames: LLC http://www.syrhobbswargames.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SHWL&Product_Code=SYR-01&Category_Code=
Ordered it today for $7.50

Naharaht
02-16-2014, 21:00
That is an interesting option.

KeithS
02-17-2014, 08:14
I was wondering if something could be done with this sort of thing to produce a light effect, it would of course have to be incorporated into the smoke part of the model.

http://miniatures.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=miniatures&cdn=hobbies&tm=6&gps=309_7_2048_1003&f=00&su=p284.13.342.ip_&tt=4&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//modeltrainsoftware.com/

Go to Fire Kit, in the LED section.