Ares has released details of the second wave of ships.

[Naharaht]

Ares sent out an e-mail today withthe details of the second wave of ships. You can see them on the Ares website.
http://www.aresgames.eu/games/sails-of-glory-line/sails-of-glory-ship-packs

[Пилот]

Guys, you definitely decided to drain me out... Well, never mind... At least I'll have ships to play with in my cardboard box... :happy:

[Coog]

Guys, you definitely decided to drain me out... Well, never mind... At least I'll have ships to play with in my cardboard box... :happy:

The trick is to order enough stuff so that the box is big enough.:happy:

[Пилот]

Hmmm... That raises question of second box :happy:

[Comte de Brueys]

Look at this beauty - this is my flagship! :clap:

http://sailsofglory.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8742&d=1390891495

[John Paul]

Nothing is more beautiful cruising through the water, or across the gaming table then a triple decker!!

With some proper rigging these just scream; "Let me at 'em"!! :hatsoff:

Can't wait till these hit the shelves!

[Berthier]

Look at this beauty - this is my flagship! :clap:

http://sailsofglory.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8742&d=1390891495

And she's a pretty thing too. :thumbsup:

[Hobbes]

MY wife just gave me "the look" when she saw hoq many ships I ordered. Think I have to sneak the new ships in. Having a (some) first rate is a must, althoughI think that the new frigates and the sloops will make for more interesting scenarios.

[taipan]

is it just me or did i read the ares page wrong? are they going to offer the kickstarter ships now? or are these different than the "real" kickstarter ships

[longagoigo]

is it just me or did i read the ares page wrong? are they going to offer the kickstarter ships now? or are these different than the "real" kickstarter ships

I'm not sure. How did you read: "Four ships in the first wave of Sails of Glory were available exclusively to the game backers on Kickstarter"?

[fredmiracle]

MY wife just gave me "the look" when she saw hoq many ships I ordered. Think I have to sneak the new ships in. Having a (some) first rate is a must, althoughI think that the new frigates and the sloops will make for more interesting scenarios.

So... the sweet spot for this wave is a big enough box that you can live in when your house is foreclosed, yet at the same time small enough that your spouse doesn't notice it. No problem...

[csadn]

<- hums a few bars of "Fat-Bottomed Girls"

[Bellerophon]

Ooooooo The L'Orient is a pretty pretty one. And Royal Sovereign!

[Пилот]

Bigger ships bring more guns :cannonboom:

[csadn]

Bigger ships bring more guns :cannonboom:

It's not the number of guns -- it's how one uses them. >;)

[Diamondback]

Bigger ship = bigger powder magazine = bigger BOOOM! lol

Man, that L'Orient is a beauty... really makes me want some Fireship rules to get some real fireworks going. O.O :D

[Comte de Brueys]

A fireship like HMS Bellerophon? :question:

[Bellerophon]

A fireship like HMS Bellerophon? :question:

Careful there, monsieur

[kelsith]

After looking at L'Orient doesn't this just look tiny.
8776

So when does the how many of these does it take to take out a Ocean Class begin

[Andy Blozinski]

After looking at L'Orient doesn't this just look tiny.
8776

So when does the how many of these does it take to take out a Ocean Class begin

It's like a King Tiger tank. It may kill something with every shot, but it's still only one cannon.

[fredmiracle]

It's like a King Tiger tank. It may kill something with every shot, but it's still only one cannon.

We were having that discussion in the context of my point system proposal, which had suggested 7 Amazons, each with untrained gunners and untrained sailors, would be equal to one SOL.

I agreed this suggested a problem in the values, since it does seem apparent that 7 Amazons would take out an SOL, even with a shot every 3 turns and an action going astray every so often. The Amazons have a pretty good broadside for the first box or two, and they should be able to wear down the SOLs crew if nothing else.

I think maybe I just deducted too many points for the "untrained" status. But it does raise a question of whether, at some point, a linear point system will always break down, because there's a multiplicative effect of more hulls.

Of course logic dictates you would need quite a few sloops to take down a first rate. Presumably the sloops will have 7 boxes with 1 point each. If the first-rates have a broadside of 8 or so, then an A range shot should on average take out 4 boxes, leaving the sloop in pretty rough shape. A lucky shot will sink it. A B shot should do 6 boxes on average, leaving it pretty much toast.

On the flip side, the first-rates will probably have 10 boxes of 6 points each. The sloops will probably have an initial broadside of 2. If you can get a shot off with 4 or 5, then should probably have knocked a box off, and maybe started another. It seems like maybe 8-10 sloops could stand a chance against a 1st rater. (This is starting to sound like Ogre)

Just managing that many sloops would be challenging, without having them collide or miss chances to fire. It would be pretty much impossible to avoid giving the SOL the chance to work both broadsides constantly. On the plus side, somebody should always have a raking angle...

[Пилот]

It's not the number of guns -- it's how one uses them. >;)
Excuses, excuses... Size does matter :shootright:

[csadn]

Excuses, excuses... Size does matter :shootright:

_Santissima Trinidad_ says "You're wrong". ;)

[Пилот]

No hablo Español :takecover:

[csadn]

No hablo Español :takecover:

130-gun Spanish ship -- defeated by smaller, but better-handled, ships. :)

[Пилот]

I now that, just kidding :happy: