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I meant "The Surveyors'" Java of 1815, not the (broadly similar) USS Java.

With a bit of a holdup on my schooner project, I have started the first of my ships from Henry's Kickstarter today. Here is Diana in process of...

Looking good Jonas. Rob.

Waymouth.

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Take a look at Francois Pestel's Pourvoyeuse class--two were built for the French Navy, don't recall if either was captured, then two more improved...

181'6 vs 174'4 looks a bit short for LOA, possibly deck length on spardeck/f'csle-qtr deck? Without a drawing, interpretation is speculative, but...

OAL would be my suspicion... somehow when we were researching Constitution a wire got crossed and she was scaled to 190' for main deck rather than...

The 'normally presented' BM for HBMS, would give a slightly shorter gun-deck length for 1502, on further investigation this should calculate at...

There is that, but easier to rework masts/sails than fab a hull from scratch.

We would need to watch the sail patterns of the MoW when turning them into HEIC because merchantmen did not set Royals as a rule. Rob.

You could probably fake the four major size groups with a 32 or 38 frigate, a 44 to 50 two-decker, a 64 and a 74 SOL. Just need to sand down and fill...

Working that way would certainly cover a multitude of sins DB, and make it more likely that a manufacturer would warm to the idea of producing the...

1500 BM is very light, but the dimensions are very close to a 74-gun SOL. Typically, I would say a navalized EIM comes in one rating below a...

Based on these charts, I would be comfortable with one large sculpt covering everything from Earl Talbot up. The question then becomes where we split...

1502 BM isn't consistent with something smaller than a 42 gun establishment ship though... but is consistent with something of the general form of a...

David, Threedecks isn't always 100% reliable though. Ares uses it as a "backup" when better primary sources or research like Rif Winfield's isn't...

According to three decks, the 1797 Ganges is 181.5ft GD, 148.67ft keel, 1502BM, with 30 12lb guns 'as commissioned'.

Are those lengths Keel or Deck, though? HEIC also liked to reuse names a heckuva lot...

My British 4th and 5th Rate ships - Ares

My Spanish 3rd Rate Ships

My French 3rd Rate ships - Ares

Excellent! I can go looking for photos too. Didn't know about Tabletop Simulator so I'll have to check that out as well. Having just scanned your...

Ah! Sorry Dave. :embarass: I guess I had better buy one from you to see what it is all about then. Rob.

I have a reference to a "Colonial Bishopric" in the Sorcerer - not a direct reference it is true, but one can hardly reach such a seat without sea...

Not a bad start Bill. Rob.

Im very happy that you did. I don't have any photos but I know they ran a few games at a con in Australia a couple of years back so I'll see if there...

Rob, not the same. This is my recently published set of fleet action rules :happy: